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what kind of “evidence” does evolution theory have? what evidence do you have for “things just evolved”? both of these “theories” (faith based and so-called “scientific observation” based) should be presented in schools.
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really? what experiments ?
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They are presented at the university level.
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which ones are presented at Univ level and which ones at school level? IMO, both of them should be present at both levels.
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Let me ask Capitol and PD...Have they found the missing link yet? No I am not talking about the moview, I am talking about the missing link that is supposed to complete/validate darwin's theory
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Google it.
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Yes both of them should be presented. The experiments proving evolution are not discussed in detail at the high school level though, only briefly.
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Nope, but not finding the missing link, which is supposed to be one-celled organism, does not disprove the theory at all. Finding the missing link will turn the theory into fact.
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I saw a very apt cartoon in Time magazine. While the concept that kids should be exposed to all kinds of theories sound nice in... yes, theory... does it mean, that while we teach them Chemistry, we should also expose them to Alchemy? Magic should be taught along with Physics. Astronomy should be side by side with Astrology. And so on.
Intelligent design is a philosophy, it is not a theory, it’s not a scientific theory, it’s not even a scientific hypothesis; it’s a belief. An emphasis on weaknesses or “holes” and gaps in evolution, is the heart of the intelligent-design movement.
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Yeah they have, CM.
All kidding aside, all it is is a missing link. It doesn’t prove that evolution as a theoretical concept is flawed. They also don’t know whether the sun is X million light years away or X-1 million light years away. Bu they know it is around that. But we all know that there is a sun and it is approx that distance.
You guys cannot even agree whether God said lipstick is haram or not, and you want us to believe that someone who cannot articulate a simple thing like that actually made this whole thing? In brooklyn there is a phrase.. “geddafackaataheuh”
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Haath hola rakhein, uncle. There is a way to present a reasonable argument.
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PD, the point is not if the lipstik is haram or not...We are talking about if both sides should be taught in scholl. I am not saying that they should be taught in the same class. Why can't there be a different classes for both?
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Yes, creationism and intelligent design can be taught in a religion or philosophy class.
Evolutionary theory remains in the science class.
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if you are unable to understand concept of a religion then we can use the same phrase for you “geddafackaataheuh”.
What is your problem if someone goes into details like lipstick etc.? Religion doesn’t hold anyone from calculating distance between sun and earth. Its not everyone’s job to do everything.
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Pinstripe, absence of proof is not proof of absence. So no matter how many holes your feeble mind can figure in God’s theories, no sane mind, IMO, can honestly refute the existance of God, and his work. That being said, the world will continue to see an odd Frued and Matsui every now and then.
On the other hand how many well established theories are there that were scientifically proven, only to refuted by better and more accurate theories and experiments? Science, is nothign but our understanding of nature. Its bound to change with time. No science is absolute.
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Shaarabi,
You are right to say that no science is absolute and it changes over time as new theories come about. The whole point of the thread is that no new theory has challenged evolution yet, and teaching intelligent design as an opposing theory is wrong because it has nothing to stand on.
Furthermore, I think it's very possible to believe in God and evolution at the same time.
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As is no religion.
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^^ You mean to say there is no absolute?
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No, I'm saying peoples' knowledge of FACTS regarding their religion are as flimsy as the ancient paper they are written on. At least science is based on fact and not faith.