i finally got #4 in delivery last night. its gorgeous but it was too big on me. kenneth cole's sizes run big i guess. and i like fitted coats. so im going to return and order a smaller size. thanks all who advised! #4 is really nice. if anyone is interested in buying it, its a orangey brown and camel tweed with a dark brown velvet belt and snap buttons and the belt is in the shape of a bow and it is not removable. i think it will go well with desi clothes too.