quite off topic... but maybe not
does cloning relate to IVF in anyway?
there is a huge debate on cloning.. but does IVF fit into the same category?
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quite off topic... but maybe not
does cloning relate to IVF in anyway?
there is a huge debate on cloning.. but does IVF fit into the same category?
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I dont think it does. IVF is only intent on giving men and woman with problems to have a child by fertilising the ovum outside the mothers body. However I see your point in issues such as choosing sex, or apperances assosciated with certain alleals.
^ i dont actually have a problem with IVF, i think its a brilliant solution for those couples who have problems conceiving... however, i do get confused with the whole "twins" thing and disposing the eggs.. neways thats a completely different topic
neways im going off on a tangent so i'll stop now
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i dont actually have a problem with IVF
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and where did I say you did ?
^ oh no.. i didnt mean u said i did... it was just a mental note i was making... dont mind me
Sadzz: actually, embryos used for cloning research and other purposes are often left over eggs/embryos from IVF procedures. Of course the couple has given its explicit permission for this research.
Stu: As with a lot of scientific research -as you mention- a lot of things will go wrong. I think we are beyond the point of return: in other words, cloning will come to us sooner than we think...we won't be able to stop it, but what we can do is take sufficient precautions. At the moment governments are too much focussed on preventing misuse of cloning....i wonder whether they will succeed; however, what they can do is already start thinking about what to do when things go wrong
Human Cloning
I recently was watching this debate program on television about human cloning. Personally, I don't think there should be anything to debate about. I mean, do they think it's a living robot that they can built and serve the purpose as so designed? No, it wouldn't be a robot; it would be a living human being. Can you imagine the psychological consequences to a human being after learning that he/she was a clone? And, let's discuss the possible uses of having a clone. One possibility would be that a couple's only child dies and the parents are devastated. If we keeps religion in mind, it is logical to conclude that it was God's wise plan in wisdom beyond our understanding, and that child's time had come. Even if cloning was widely accepted and parents were allowed to have a clone of their baby, would they ever forget the trauma of their own child's death. No. Would the clone baby ever be truely replace their own child that had died? No. The world can tolerate only one Elvis Presly and only one Hitler (you may include other top notch people's name in the list as well). The cloning is contrary to the whole theory of Evolution; cloning would be stagnant; cloning would be messing with Mother Nature. Mother Nature may have some cloning plans of her own; but I just don't believe it should be something that should be tempered with. I certainly do not wish myself or any of my family members to ever be cloned; and I am sure most others wouldn't as well.
Besides the one reason I noted above, there may be other uses of cloning as well best known to military or science. However, I would all the people out there to remember two things. One, winning is not everything (it's not even the only thing). Second, we borrow this world from our children. The question that each one of us should ask ourselves is this: Do we want to leave a world for our children in which there are clones? Without cloning there may be some instances of intense suffering; but suffering promotes human growth and brings one closer to God. Leave some things in the hands of God.
Oh and I forgot to mention, if cloning is meant to decrease suffering--go save someone's life instead...become a fireman or policeman or something.
DON'T play god i.e. allah. sceince is going to far these days, hadd mein rehna sekhain yai scientists
we are already discussing this topic in a similar thread -cloning revisited -
hence merged
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*DON'T play god i.e. allah. sceince is going to far these days, hadd mein rehna sekhain yai scientists
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I don't think this argument holds that much: when things that are seen as normal today were first invented ppl said the very same thing. Things like antibiotics, heart tranplantations, aeroplanes, rockets etc. etc.
The life given to the cloned human is an approval from GOD(A) that it is 100% religious.
It is going to be very good for those who have certain defects to be parents.
We use birth control for those who have no defects and can have as many kids as they like.
Regarding cloning of organs , a step forward for transplantation, to repair the defective body.All scientific inventions have more advantages than flaws to harm the man kind.
Regarding other problems;
we human who have reached to this stage of exploring GOD's science of creation, would solve, them as and when it would cause problems. Bye sokoon
in a certain sense an monozygotic twin can be considered nature's way of cloning....so there isn't a big difference between 'nature' and 'human' cloning
you're not really doing anything to croon about as far as upping Allah is concerned. Since we use DNA and human cells to initiate the process, it isnt very different from in vitro pregnancies and fertility pills.
^there is one essential difference though: in IVF we use a DNA combination that has never before been on this planet (1 from each parent), in cloning that DNA combination has been here already once.
Re: cloning - revisited
REFRESHED
let’s continue this discussion in context of this article:
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/articles.php?action=viewarticle&artid=49