Climate Change is real

[Rocking_vibes]

Re: Climate Change is real

@Seminole

You should do your homework before posting studies have been disproven and de-bunkded. Check out here: http://stephenschneider.stanford.edu/Climate/Climate_Science/CliSciFrameset.html?http://stephenschneider.stanford.edu/Climate/Climate_Science/Contrarians.html and here: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/12/science/earth/12climate.long.html?ex=1281499200&en=2588a631b8c5cc5d&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

Some scientists who question whether human-caused global warming poses a threat have long pointed to records that showed the atmosphere’s lowest layer, the troposphere, had not warmed over the last two decades and had cooled in the tropics.

Now two independent studies have found errors in the complicated calculations used to generate the old temperature records, which involved stitching together data from thousands of weather balloons lofted around the world and a series of short-lived weather satellites.

A third study shows that when the errors are taken into account, the troposphere actually got warmer. Moreover, that warming trend largely agrees with the warmer surface temperatures that have been recorded and conforms to predictions in recent computer models.

The three papers were published yesterday in the online edition of the journal Science.

The scientists who developed the original troposphere temperature records from satellite data, John R. Christy and Roy W. Spencer of the University of Alabama in Huntsville, conceded yesterday that they had made a mistake but said that their revised calculations still produced a warming rate too small to be a concern.

“Our view hasn’t changed,” Dr. Christy said. “We still have this modest warming.”

Other climate experts, however, said that the new studies were very significant, effectively resolving a puzzle that had been used by opponents of curbs on heat-trapping greenhouse gases.

“These papers should lay to rest once and for all the claims by John Christy and other global warming skeptics that a disagreement between tropospheric and surface temperature trends means that there are problems with surface temperature records or with climate models,” said Alan Robock, a meteorologist at Rutgers University.

Excellent Post…and this should shut everyone up…and according to Kaleem’s excellent logic this makes you an Islamophobe…Man, some ppl never grow up !!

[Kaleem]

Re: Climate Change is real

@Seminole

You should do your homework before posting studies have been disproven and de-bunkded. Check out here: http://stephenschneider.stanford.edu/Climate/Climate_Science/CliSciFrameset.html?http://stephenschneider.stanford.edu/Climate/Climate_Science/Contrarians.html and here: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/12/science/earth/12climate.long.html?ex=1281499200&en=2588a631b8c5cc5d&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

Some scientists who question whether human-caused global warming poses a threat have long pointed to records that showed the atmosphere’s lowest layer, the troposphere, had not warmed over the last two decades and had cooled in the tropics.

Now two independent studies have found errors in the complicated calculations used to generate the old temperature records, which involved stitching together data from thousands of weather balloons lofted around the world and a series of short-lived weather satellites.

A third study shows that when the errors are taken into account, the troposphere actually got warmer. Moreover, that warming trend largely agrees with the warmer surface temperatures that have been recorded and conforms to predictions in recent computer models.

The three papers were published yesterday in the online edition of the journal Science.

The scientists who developed the original troposphere temperature records from satellite data, John R. Christy and Roy W. Spencer of the University of Alabama in Huntsville, conceded yesterday that they had made a mistake but said that their revised calculations still produced a warming rate too small to be a concern.

“Our view hasn’t changed,” Dr. Christy said. “We still have this modest warming.”

Other climate experts, however, said that the new studies were very significant, effectively resolving a puzzle that had been used by opponents of curbs on heat-trapping greenhouse gases.

“These papers should lay to rest once and for all the claims by John Christy and other global warming skeptics that a disagreement between tropospheric and surface temperature trends means that there are problems with surface temperature records or with climate models,” said Alan Robock, a meteorologist at Rutgers University.

Seminole, the same studies also show that changing climates is the norm. It happened before in the 17th century and is happening again. You do a masterful job of spin doctoring…picking and choosing the part of studies that suit your need. That is exactly what Al the Stiffy Gore does. Model used by Al Gore to predict doom and gloom has been debunked by several scientists. So please, try som other approach. I see you had nothing to say about the questions raised by those scientists.

[Kaleem]

Re: Climate Change is real

Excellent Post........and this should shut everyone up........and according to Kaleem's excellent logic this makes you an Islamophobe.......Man, some ppl never grow up !!

RV, kiddo, try to stick to the topic. I made that comment in another thread related to the matter. I know it is hard for you to follow the logic, but, give it a shot and you will see the light.

[inzi_rocks]

Re: Climate Change is real

Now Inzi, do you care to share your esteemed research that you did for your community college? I am sure you cross checked all of your references and made sure that all data presented in your research was accurate... correct. Kiddo, I will let you off the hook this time, however, next time you try a personal insult, you will not go unpunished.

No, I'd rather not share my 'esteemed research' with the likes of yourself-ignorant turd. **
**And yes...I did all of those things that you have mentioned :)
If you scroll up, you may see that you're the one who tried to personally insult ME, PAL so I suggest you learn to get back what you give. Jeez, come on then, punish me :)

[Kaleem]

Re: Climate Change is real

Ask the people who surround you, what kind of pounding they took from this ass. :)

[Kaleem]

Re: Climate Change is real

No, I'd rather not share my 'esteemed research' with the likes of yourself-ignorant turd. ** **And yes...I did all of those things that you have mentioned :) If you scroll up, you may see that you're the one who tried to personally insult ME, PAL so I suggest you learn to get back what you give. Jeez, come on then, punish me :)

Inzi, you are one fine scientist to observe that climate is changing. You know, just like the grass is green and water makes you wet.

You do not want to share the research because there is none. You just wanted to boast that you did some presentation for your community college...that is all. No research, no cited work.

[Rocking_vibes]

Re: Climate Change is real

No, I'd rather not share my 'esteemed research' with the likes of yourself-ignorant turd. ** **And yes...I did all of those things that you have mentioned :) If you scroll up, you may see that you're the one who tried to personally insult ME, PAL so I suggest you learn to get back what you give. Jeez, come on then, punish me :)

OH Jeeeeeez.........Inzi arn't you scared.........Kaalem is going to punish you.... I guess you shd apologise to him before he orders a FATWA against you......HE HE........:D

[inzi_rocks]

Re: Climate Change is real

Oh well done Kaleem; thats right; punish Inzi by talking about her mum :k: Very mature.

[Kaleem]

Re: Climate Change is real

RV, I guess you do like getting your world rocked by me...i am sure it is a family trait. :D

[inzi_rocks]

Re: Climate Change is real

@Kaleem

Inzi, you are one fine scientist to observe that climate is changing. You know, just like the grass is green and water makes you wet, and Kaleem is a self-proclaimed genius.

You do not want to share the research because there is none. You just wanted to boast that you did some presentation for your community college…that is all. No research, no cited work.

What a prat. Do you even know what the hell you are on about? Who the hell do you think you are,…!

[shoaib_akhter]

Re: Climate Change is real

oh man! i cant believe this is happening here.

[inzi_rocks]

Re: Climate Change is real

@Rocking_vibes

OH Jeeeeeez…Inzi arn’t you scared…Kaalem is going to punish you… I guess you shd apologise to him before he orders a FATWA against you…HE HE…

I knowww

[Kaleem]

Re: Climate Change is real

Inzi, is that the best you can do? Modify my post and put some smilies? Kiddo, go back to cafe where people will not question if you have any facts to backup your claims. Either put up or shut up. Either provide your work cited or get back to cafe ...you teenybopper.

[shoaib_akhter]

Re: Climate Change is real

Kaleem unkil: i need some help with my project. the topic is "What Happens when u get too old". if u could provide some facts of ur OWN life. Since, it seems that you have done a lot of research in the past. Have you written a book or some thing?
Thanks!

[Kaleem]

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^ Yes, it is called : Go ask your father. Now shabash, chanda, go back to cafe and Cricket Nama. Also, learn to not make claims if you cannot back them up with facts....you will learn this in real life.

[Rocking_vibes]

Re: Climate Change is real

Kaleem unkil: i need some help with my project. the topic is "What Happens when u get too old". if u could provide some facts of ur OWN life. Since, it seems that you have done a lot of research in the past. Have you written a book or some thing? Thanks!

LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL, AWESOME DUDE, People like you make this forum worth to be in !!

[shoaib_akhter]

Re: Climate Change is real

Wot a nice name! Go ask your Father.... I bet u read that to your kids every night. SHABASH!
stop by cafe some day. its all about facts over there.
thank you.

[Cool_Breeze]

Re: Climate Change is real

Inzi, is that the best you can do? Modify my post and put some smilies? Kiddo, go back to cafe where people will not question if you have any facts to backup your claims. Either put up or shut up. Either provide your work cited or get back to cafe ...you teenybopper.

am sorry to say but thats not very nice.

Inzi was just giving her opinion and she has all the rights to do so. Yes, she is a teenager and I think, its kinda cool that she is trying to give her opinion and at the same time, she is trying to learn.
How could you even compare her with your experience. Ofcourse she is young and ofcourse she wouldn't know as much as you do. Shouldn't we appreciate that someone is trying to contribute here.
GS is for everyone. All the kids & teenagers need to visit these forums as well. Because thats how they learn too.

May be you need to have some patience here......

[Kaleem]

Re: Climate Change is real

Wot a nice name! Go ask your Father.... I bet u read that to your kids every night. SHABASH! stop by cafe some day. its all about facts over there. thank you.

Kiddo, when you grow up, you will learn that there is more to life than Cricket. Also, trying to defend your friends without a reason is not a good way to earn your ticket to General.

[inzi_rocks]

Re: Climate Change is real

Inzi, is that the best you can do? Modify my post and put some smilies? Kiddo, go back to cafe where people will not question if you have any facts to backup your claims. Either put up or shut up. Either provide your work cited or get back to cafe ...you teenybopper.

I'm quite happy just here, thank you very much.

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BTW, who are you meant to be....the guard dog for General?