Re: Chinese New Year - Islamabad welcomes the Year of Goat
That everybody does, my comment was in context of their cultural affiliation :)
Although most Chinese claim to be atheists, they 'worship' anything that can bring them money and power.
In some cultures, 'luck' includes good health, relationships and happiness in general. For Chinese, 'good luck' emphasizes wealth over everything else.
Re: Chinese New Year - Islamabad welcomes the Year of Goat
Although most Chinese claim to be atheists, they 'worship' anything that can bring them money and power.
In some cultures, 'luck' includes good health, relationships and happiness in general. For Chinese, 'good luck' emphasizes wealth over everything else.
Thanks for this info
What is Chinese idea about community, I mean does their idea of civilization include relationship of man with his community(muslim ummah way) or is it like just between man and god for wealth.
Re: Chinese New Year - Islamabad welcomes the Year of Goat
Thanks for this info
What is Chinese idea about community, I mean does their idea of civilization include relationship of man with his community(muslim ummah way) or is it like just between man and god for wealth.
It is quite different from before cultural revolution. 'GOD' doesn't exist for most. A lot of them worship their 'ancestors' who are dead but still looking after them from heavens. The prayers often include material gifts (burnt, so that the ashes reach the ancestors in heaven).
Now, every person has a 'duty' (job) to do. If the person doesn't do what he/she is 'supposed' to do, then he/she brings disharmony to the society. The concepts of ying/yang are deeply ingrained. So, essentially, every person is just a cog in the machine and that machine is not organic. Ideas like friendship, sacrifice for relations, personal enjoyment, etc. are not as strong as in other societies. When they get rich, they would do things that rich people are 'supposed' to do, not what they 'like' to do.
Think about this: Chinese excel in non-team based sports (table tennis, gymnastics, diving, badminton, etc.) and do not do very well in team-based sports (like soccer, basketball, baseball, etc).
Re: Chinese New Year - Islamabad welcomes the Year of Goat
It is quite different from before cultural revolution. 'GOD' doesn't exist for most. A lot of them worship their 'ancestors' who are dead but still looking after them from heavens. The prayers often include material gifts (burnt, so that the ashes reach the ancestors in heaven).
Now, every person has a 'duty' (job) to do. If the person doesn't do what he/she is 'supposed' to do, then he/she brings disharmony to the society. The concepts of ying/yang are deeply ingrained. So, essentially, every person is just a cog in the machine and that machine is not organic. Ideas like friendship, sacrifice for relations, personal enjoyment, etc. are not as strong as in other societies. When they get rich, they would do things that rich people are 'supposed' to do, not what they 'like' to do.
Think about this: Chinese excel in non-team based sports (table tennis, gymnastics, diving, badminton, etc.) and do not do very well in team-based sports (like soccer, basketball, baseball, etc).
So if Chinese ideas of friendship,sacrifice personal enjoyment is not strong, how were they organized as powerful army in the ancient time?
Additionally, does Japanese idea differ in this regard as they were even Kamikaze in WWII ?
Re: Chinese New Year - Islamabad welcomes the Year of Goat
I think I was born in the year of monkey…or was it pig? 
Re: Chinese New Year - Islamabad welcomes the Year of Goat
Although most Chinese claim to be atheists, they 'worship' anything that can bring them money and power.
don't ever say that to a Chinese. lol
Re: Chinese New Year - Islamabad welcomes the Year of Goat
It is actually easier to control an army when you have centralized everything. Every officer and soldier knows what they are supposed to do and they do it without questioning. They do it not because of some supernatural love for their country, but they do it because this is what they are supposed to do.
Many Chinese provinces were like Japan before “the great leap forward” and “cultural revolution” destroyed cultural diversity and individual thought in China. The revolution aimed at ‘unifying’ everything and taking everything under central control including dialects, schooling, history and philosophy.
There is a very strong hate for ‘losing face’ in Japanese culture. If someone finds out that you did something wrong, you ‘lose face’ and traditionally the only way to salvage pride was to commit suicide. A lot of this philosophy comes from Chinese influence. Now that Chinese have changed, Japanese haven’t. Getting your soldiers to die for your country wasn’t difficult for such a society.
Now, Japanese were so ‘shamed’ by the way they acted during world war, that idea of violent war is still abhorrent. Even though Japanese civilians suffered a lot during the war, they are still reminded continuously of how shamefully the imperial Japan acted during the two world wars.
Re: Chinese New Year - Islamabad welcomes the Year of Goat
Wonderful answer! Now I understood your point of being ‘cogs in system which is not organic’
Thanks for these pointers, my next set of books would be on understanding China 
Re: Chinese New Year - Islamabad welcomes the Year of Goat
Most and not all
Mostly applies to China and not chinese living outside china
And its changing like keeping pets instead of having children , (personal enjoyment)
How will the year of the goat be for those who are born in the year of the goat ?
What about the rest of the sign?
Re: Chinese New Year - Islamabad welcomes the Year of Goat
jub u charpai pr kucch time guzarnay k qabil ho jao :cobra:
yeh lo bhara howa sutta 