Chappel questions legality of Shoaib Akhtar’s action (trashes 'effort' balls)

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after the match in 'Straight Drive' michael holding told that rp sing also has an hyperextended elbow.

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^^Naw, he chucks :cb:

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Chappel is just being dick...
I would have given some weight to his thought if he said it earlier ...like before becoming coach of India. But saying it now, sounds like sour grapes.

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Not sure about hyperextended elbow on RP Singh, but he sure wears a nice big smile even after getting creamed for FOURS. With this friendly attitude, he will never make a good fast bowler.

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There is nothing wrong with Chappel, I guess. When you are appoinsted as an Indian coach and you watch Pathan, Zaheer, RP Singh, …@ 120 km (4-12 hours a day). Then you play against Pak and Shoaib starts attack @ 150km+. Then definitely Shoaib is doing someting different and something wrong. But whats it?

(otherwise) Pathan was trying to follow that and deliver @ 150km. :cb: :cb: :stuck_out_tongue: :cb: :cb:

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Greg Chappal has yet to impress me in any sense of the game and now he is out of the contention all together.

I mentioned it before and would reiterate the difference between the 2 coaches.
In comparison Bob Woolmer never questioned Harbhajan’s integrity as it was irrelevant to the game results neither he would feed the press in this manner.

Yet the Aussie gentleman thinks highly of himself and is willing to question the higher expertise of the biometricians in such an idiotic manner.
Chappal should know better, that the new technologies (if out every 2nd year) don’t necessarily void any previous certification. This is not a murder trial or some ones DNA in question, and if he wishes to join the Indian Batsmen in playing sissy and a whiner so be it.
He better shut his mouth and feed it to the sharks if that can help him.

:jhanda:

Chappal, You are fired! :aj:

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Well these things are not there for the first time. India-Pak matches are different and there are always a few incidents there. many years back there was a to-be-a-legend sort of Indian player who cliamed that he is getting hard deliveries from Waqar and Wasim while they deliver easier ones to Azhar.

As for Shoaib he hit Lara once and that was really a bad hit, but Lara and Akhter are friends and no WI player or coach ever found something different and wrong with him. But Dravid and co (despite training on bowling machines) always have problems with him.

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Now they have got one old Ashy (who should better retire and spend more time in church) to support them.

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Chappel might have been a great player but as a coach he doesn't have a lot of credibility. I found it shocking that he revealed at end of the second day that the Indian team was waiting for a declaration.

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Oye, its nothing but some mind games before One Day series....... :-)
Chappel has dubious credentials as a person, underarm bowling was his idea isn't it..........

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lolll…chappal needs a beating witha size 45 eagle hawai chappal!!!

today shoiab chucks and thats y he hit tendu n kumble

tomorrow we’ll find that younis khan fed “naswar” to the indian team so he could make runs off them

:cb:

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:rotfl: :rotfl:

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check this out..

http://www.uploading.com/?get=DSZD0Q68

or http://www.justupit.com/e22af4c10195b35bcbf58a4851211421

Michael Holding explaining a few things :).. its amazing to see that RP Singh has also got an arm like Shoaib Akhtar.. poor lad cannot go above 125 :slight_smile:

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Interesting article, apparently Shoaib’s action changed in Karachi test compared to the tests in Lahore & Faisalabad.

Chuck it, Pak, Greg knows what he’s talking about

India’s coach has seen genuine fast bowling as a player, so when he sees slingshot action he knows what it’s about

Greg Chappell is not one to quibble about fast bowlers.(Well, guess what, he does !!!) He made his Test debut against an England side at the WACA in Perth when the venue was also making its international debut on December 11, 1970 and John Snow was a particularly nasty fast bowler in that England side. (Snow trained Imran in county cricuit later on, and bowled a livley pace but was no where near as quick as Imran, Lillie, Thomson etc)
Snow, a prototype Brett Lee, did more than anyone to help England beat Australia 2-1 in a rather heated Ashes series in 1970/71. Vicious swinging yorkers also gave him an advantage over others in that England attack. But he wasn’t a show pony. He was a genuine sort.

So when India’s coach passed comments about Shoaib Akhtar’s action, it should be known where the middle Chappell brothers was coming. There was something decidedly peculiar about Shoaib’s action when he bowled in Karachi. (Ofcourse there was, he didnt hit Endulkar or Kumble in the previous two games)

Watching on television is, admittedly, hardly the same as being at the venue. But Shoaib’s action was noticeably slingshot and thus suspect at times and it appeared he was out to deliberately hit the batsmen. Snow didn’t need to do that. He was too good. (How can one tell when a bowler is out to deliberatley hit someone, a lot of quicks bowl bouncers. Chappel and Indians must have the great ability to read minds.)

In the first two Tests, on flatbed surfaces where Pakistan were only interested in having an extended middle net, the Rawalpindi Express looked decidedly smoother and there was no jerk in his action (not that anyone would notice the difference). (If no one would notice the difference, how did Chappel or the person who wrote this column did ?)

Karachi was different. And, as expected, the comments coming out of Pakistan are decidedly paranoid over the Chappell allegations. After the ICC’s Bowling Review Group upheld the banning of Shabbir Ahmed for a year over his decidedly dodgy action any criticism of a Pakistan bowler will not be appreciated. (Paranoid ?? Look’s who’s talking. All Pakistani coach said was if such comments were made by the opposition then it’s wrong since there is a system in place for such things and instead of public statements one should go through proper channels)

There are those in Pakistan who view anything said about the action of their bowlers as a ‘prejudiced plot.’ That’s garbage. Did you hear the United Cricket Board bleating over Johan Botha’s action when it was questioned?
It is known that Botha was the subject of serious comment during South Africa’s A team tour of Sri Lanka last August/September. It even reached the stage where the views of the Sri Lanka A team management were place in a report but it wasn’t sent to the ICC; just a verbal concern that he should be watched.

Now Shaharyar Khan, the Pakistan Cricket Board chairman, is tossing his rhetorical toys. Here he grumbles about Wasim Bari, the Pakistan selection convener, being fined for comments about umpires and wants the ICC to discipline Chappell. It’s time Pakistan got rid of this touch of inferiority (or obsession) and take a serious look at Law 23 (notes 2 and 3) and also Law 1 (notes 3 and 4). Of course the PCB chairman can quote such laws verbatim.
It is well-known that Shoaib has hypertension in the elbow, but if you examine replays of the action from Lahore to Karachi, there was a decided difference whether the Pakistanis like it or not. (Talking about Laws and Regulation now eh, what happened to following the proper way of reporting a bowler, like going to the match refree instead of open thatt hole under his nose infront of the media.)

But then they don’t like Kiwis pointing out a few facts. Former New Zealand captain John Reid refused to back down in 2000 when he banned Waqar Younis for what was a flagrant breach of the law of fair and unfair play. Waqar was caught on camera fingering the ball during the rain-ruined Test in Kandy last time Pakistan were on tour in Sri Lanka. (Sachi was caught screwing with the ball as well, apni cheezain bhool jatey hain. When Indians get caught they just dont accept the ban and instead make their next game “unofficial”)

Pakistan didn’t like it but Reid stood by his decision. There is only one set of laws, not one for Pakistan and one for the rest of the world. (Doesnt seem to be same set of rules for India and the rest of the world, we dont want accept a ban, we dont want to play champions trophy, we want the next match to be unofficial and still count towards the ban)
Back to Chappell. He knows what facing genuine fast bowling is all about. Snow was not a gentle floating white flake. But when you think of it, Shoaib was tested in 2001 under the old formula (7.5 for spinners and 10 for fast bowlers). Perhaps it is time he was given another trial under the new system to see whether there is any changes in bowling action.

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oh man...these indian newspapers are bloody propaganda thrash!