Ceasefire finally! Hope no one does rocket bazi for a long time now

No, this is a conclusion drawn from reality... The US has always opposed any criticsm of Israel, and has actualy gone out of their way to appease the Israelis. The world knows this. Everything passed against Israel in the Security council (countries that dont include the Arab world), have to be cleared by the US, as it will veto (and ev eryone kows this) anything that is critical of Israeli policy.
NON Arab analysts have said this aswell, that the US, particularly the former administration, has not done enough beyond paying lip service to genuine violations by Israel. Israel continues to expand illegal settlements because they know that the US wont make an issue out of it.

Why do you forget that the Palestinians are the victims here? Why do you put the entire onus on them? You have the typical tunnel vision of many pro Zionist pseudo intelectuals. They cant see beyond their own narrow view and proclaim other anti semites or typically "arab."
I have already discussed this before, and the facts have been repeated over and over, but you simply dont have the intelectual flexibilty to see beyon what you see on Fox news.
Once again, besides your moral pronouncements over these people being pretty insensitive and screaming of naivete, the facts on the ground speak for themselves. The number of rocket attacks had decreased dramatically, and its was Israel that broke the ceasefire, not Hamas.

Arabs have no influence on ISRAEL... They have already made offers, and it was the Israelis who turned up their nose. The fact is that Israel does not want peace unless its on Israeli terms.
The only country that jas any influence over Israel is the US. And they have given Israel a free hand.

The end of hostilities! My god! ITS THAT SIMPLE!
Honestly, you are so damn naive its painful.
The hostility is a result of Israel ignoring international law, stealing land, stealing resources, and turning Palestinians into cattle in a pen. The onus is on Israel and America.

Got everything off your chest? Good!

Now settle down and FOCUS on the GAZA aka CURRENT issue. Did you read the title of this thread? It talks about ceasefire that is related to Gaza.

Israelis were not stealing any land in Gaza. Infact they left the well developed settlements to be looted by the Gazans.

Gazans need to make sure their territory is not abused by militants. That's all.

And if they do that, in 10-15 years they will have a pretty good self rule.

p.s. Pakistanis should not mock the possibility of peace in Gaza. We have plenty of our own problems from Islamist militants.

The Arab Peace Initiative adopted by the Arab Summit in Beirut, 2002 states

The Arab nations are willing to fully recognise Israel if:-

  • Israel honours her international obligations and returns to her June 4th, 1967 borders.
  • Israel agrees to the UN Resolution to a just settlement on the issue of "Right of Return" of Palestinian refugees.
  • Israel completes the UN Resolution 242 and 338 so that a viable Palestinian state consisting of East Jerusalem, West Bank and Gaza can be created.

The Arabs here are being very generous as they are allowing Israel to keep illegally acquired territories from 1948 - 1967. In return they are offering full trade and peace agreements with Israel with no strings attached.

However, some people have NOT done their homework.

Generosity? huh?

That's the good one. Oh bhai. You are generous only if you give what you ALREADY have.

FYI Arabs do not have what they are offering. This is just a diplomatic monkey business.

Do you ever wonder why Arabs are losing in the Middle East? They accept the reality a little late, like good 20-50 years late. Here are some references for you.

Arabs didn't accept the borders in 1948, so they lost more in 1967.
Arabs didn't accept the reality in 1967, so they lost even more in 73.

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Then only Egypt figured out the reality thanks to Sadat, but Syrian and Palestinians continued to live in a la la land.
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Arabs didn't accept the reality in 1973, so they lost even more in 2001.
Arabs didn't accept the reality in 2001, so they lost even more in 2005.
Arabs didn't accept the reality in 2005, so they lost even more in 2008.

Do you see a pattern here. Do you? Do you?

For "normal" people it would be better to accept the reality NOW that is in 2008, otherwise this will be gone too.

And then your next generation in 2040 will be sitting and typing on GS forum that now Arabs are very "generous" and they are willing to accept the 2008 borders. Wah wah bhai. kiya timeliness hai Arab lands main.

p.s. I hope and pray that GS forum is still around in 2040s and 2050s. Won't that be cool that our future generations will do google and laugh at our estu-pid bickering?

How did you just take that history and justify illegal occupation? You cant.

Arabs are willing to accept the illegal occupation up til 1967 borders.

Or else, no peace.

Israel does not want peace to begin with, so its better for israeli supporters to stop asking for peace.

So Arabs say 1967 borders are legal? Right?

Your #1 and #2 are contradictory.

Arabs say "Or Else".

Israel doesn't say "or Else".

So who really wants peace, and who is just pretending.

Just a logical correlation here, and no emotional outbursts please.

P.S. Legality of real estate is defined by two aspects.

  1. If you have papers for the piece of land. (preferred method)
  2. You have control of the piece of land. (less preferred but still valid if no one else can show the papers).

Arabs have neither #1 nor #2

Arabs want peace, Israel wants genocide of Arabs. Anything else? Please post some more pathetic arguments.

Best post in the thread so far. Burqa you couldn't even do better than this simple post. You bring shame to ALL true Pakistanis.