Career in Accounting

no. i have talked to CA in Pakistan and this is what they told me. they said i dont have to redo any subjects or anything. i will be granted certificate as they accept aus qualification.
i was interested in doing CA and moving to pak and i asked them about it.

CPA, USA and CA from England & Wales are almost equivalent qualifications. There is no institute of Chartered Accountants in the USA - there the public accountants are called CPAs.

Australia has got both the institute - the chartered accountants institute and certified public accountants institute.

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All I know is CA are on high demand right now at least in Canada.

But still they wont allow you to practice of your own unless you pass the local tax and corporate laws.

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But passing these exams is not a big deal!

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"Those who qualified from other recognized Accounting Bodies:
A person who is a member from Institute of Chartered Accountants in Australia, Canada, England & Wales, Ireland, Scotland may apply for membership.
These members will have to pass the papers of Advanced Taxation and Corporate Laws of Professional examination if they intend to engage in public practice."

Institute of Chartered Accountants of Pakistan

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^ Thats exactly what I thought and remembered.

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Accounting here in Pakistan is a very unthankful profession. Its quite boring too! One of senior colleagues used to say "saray accountant jahanum may hoingay".

Totally agreed

I have recently qualified CA (Pak) doing job in UAE and going to start CFA
any suggestion / guidance

Whats the current job situation in UAE? I am a CMA from Pakistan.

Please explain.
Thanks.

I don't know about UAE & Pakistan, but in Canada, there are 3 CFA exams, and there is a 50% chance that you will fail all 3.

The passing rate for Asia is around the same, I think.

**Khoob guzray gi jab mil baithain gay deewanay saaray :lifey: **

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I am so glad I found this thread and that's why I decided to join...very informative to me

Faisal bhai, if you don't mind please help with this. I passed B.Com (accounting degree from India) in 1979 but switched to computer programming after that. Now I am in USA and getting bored with I.T. I used to be very interested in finance discipline and I am wondering if doing a CPA or MBA (Finance) is faster and better? What do you think?

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Very nice faisal uncle :) :p .

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kamraj,

Depends. '79 is a long time ago. CPA is very focused on accounting, while with MBA you have a lot of flexibility in what specialization you want to get into (e.g. finance, marketing, HR, etc). So its up to you, if you want to focus only on accounting and go up the career ladder, or get to a more general route and go in management functions. I assume you are mid to late 40's so going the CPA route may take you down a few rings in corporate hierarchy at this stage of your career. I will suggest MBA to supplement your IT experience and go into more management roles.

__ Lahore ka Cheetah,

I did my CA from Pak in 1993-1997, and my CPA in the US in 2001, so some of my comments may be dated. Anyway, the main differences were

  1. For CPA, there were only 4 subjects, 4 papers, 4 books. Prepare these books and you are done. Pretty much all tests are MCQ's. Whether you pass or fail, you get a detailed report card telling you exactly how you scored for each topic inside a paper.

  2. For CA in Pakistan, there was

a. no coaching (at that time) and you had to rely on your peer group for help,
b. no defined syllabus,
c. 15-16 papers spread over 4 exams.
d. you fail one paper, and you have to retake all papers in that exam.
e. no one knew what is the passing grade i.e. whether you need to score 33% to pass a paper, 50%, 60% or 80%? No idea.
f. they won't tell you your grade either. All you know is that you have "failed" or you have "passed.
g. there was a "referral" concept but it was very narrow and only gave you two more attempts before "referral" would lapse.

In summary, they'd make it as tough as possible to pass. There was a rumor that only 5% candidates pass the exam. I doubt it was true. There was another rumor that passing marks are a bell curve and sliding scale. I doubt that either. When I had passed all exams in my first attempts, my seniors said that I was the first one in last 8 years in my firm. I have heard that now they have made significant changes in the format, and its easier to pass CA in Pakistan than it was before, but still I believe clearing CPA in the US is a piece of cake compared to CA in Pakistan.

Yes things changed a lot over the years! Now there are loads of first time and within period qualifiers!

And this is all due to the strategic decsion taken by ICAP in 1993 or 1994. Then they decided to change their admission policy - they began to award admission to CA programme on the basis of intermediate and started two years foundation coaching programme before the 4 years mentor training.

This change resulted in attraction for the cream of the students which previously used to go for medical, engineering and business management.

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Till the year 2000, ICAP was granting exemptions to ACCA and CIMA qualified students from all the exams except Law and Taxation. Many of those young intelligent students who joined their training period after qualifying foundation exams passed these ACCA exams in their first attempt (ACCA granted them exemptions in many papers on the basis of CA Foundation) as they could not sit the CA final exams before completing their two years training. It was so easy for them to pass ACCA final and then apply for exemptions from ICAP and they easily passed the two papers of Pakistan taxation and corporate laws from ICAP.

Later on ICAP withdrew ACCA and CIMA exemptions!

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Faisal,

Thank you for taking the trouble.

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Faisal I know you answered this Q once before but if it's possible u or someone else can answer this query for others who might have hte same problem....

What are the options for someone with minimal educational background in accounting (electives/minor) but their bachelor's degree is totally different field? Professional experience is pretty much zero. How can they still somehow manage to get into this field (i.e., what is the most "bottom" one can work ther way up from?) while potentially studying for the accting degree as well?

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Internship.