Why deos the U.S. feed North Korea, why does the U.S. give billions in Aid? Because its the right thing to do.
Iraqs situation cannot be blamed on the U.S. thats not a fair assessment.
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Iraqs situation cannot be blamed on the U.S. thats not a fair assessment.
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You cant go into a country, take out its govt and then say that the anarchy is not your fault. If you initiate it alone, better be prepared to finish it up that way.
Post Iraq plannign was poor but taking out a gov. which oppressed its people and couldn't be trusted without sanctions which in turn caused the Iraqi people to suffer had to be done.
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Post Iraq plannign was poor but taking out a gov. which oppressed its people and couldn't be trusted without sanctions which in turn caused the Iraqi people to suffer had to be done.
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Fair enough. Then clean up the mess without the Intl community. Why care for the UN? After all its pretty irrelevant..
And it shouldn't be, changes are needed.
Bush would like to clean up the mess without th UN and I oppose that idea.
yep..I loved that part.
Such an stupid guy.
why was there no question on economy and job?
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Such an stupid guy.
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Oh boy.
media whores.. journalism died many years ago.. what we have now are opportunists and yes men who battle to put their names on a list so the emperor can call them to ask the scripted question to which he still gives muddled responses .. what world do they live in?? the average man isn't bothered about peace in Iraq or security for 'our interests' in the Middle East.. . where are our jobs? why do they continue to go overseas and Americans left with low paying ones? what's up with this spending and deficit and moronic economic policies and departments inflating numbers? Why are we being told to live in fear when these very adventures were supposed to make us safer?
media whores i tell you. not one had the moral certitude to ask the real questions.. i guess if they were capable of it they wouldn't be allowed to attend in the first place..
Bush is too blinkered. This idea of imposing democracy by occupation is a dumb one. Iraq is a mess and the idea of invading Syria or Iran as well looks like a pipedream now.
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media whores.. journalism died many years ago.. what we have now are opportunists and yes men who battle to put their names on a list so the emperor can call them to ask the scripted question to which he still gives muddled responses .. what world do they live in?? the average man isn't bothered about peace in Iraq or security for 'our interests' in the Middle East.. . where are our jobs? why do they continue to go overseas and Americans left with low paying ones? what's up with this spending and deficit and moronic economic policies and departments inflating numbers? Why are we being told to live in fear when these very adventures were supposed to make us safer?
media whores i tell you. not one had the moral certitude to ask the real questions.. i guess if they were capable of it they wouldn't be allowed to attend in the first place..
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Maybe in bumfuk texas people are not concerned about security but in NY we are. As far as Jobs are concerned, we cannot call for free markets and trade while closing our own. Offshoring is a win win. It more "media hype" by yes men than any reaity linked to macroeconomic performance.
I would rather we fight over there. Dimish the threat to the civilized world, over there than over here.
It is amazing that people want somekind of utopian turnover to democracy in a land where ruthless oppression has been the norm. Democracy took years, decades, for it to get established in places like US and India and western Europe. These morons in the middleeast expect to have it overnight.
If the questions were scripted, why was Bush unable to answer them clearly? He kept repeating himself and sounded too unsure. The worst moment was when he was asked what was your biggest mistake. I felt embarrassed for the guy.
I think some of you are overlooking the big picture. First off, you've got to remember that if and when a news conference is held is entirely the decision of the President. So why now? What objective did GWB have?
I would suggest that the timing of the news conference was determined as GWB's first real effort to frame the debate for the upcoming election. How many questions did you hear last night on the economy? [Answer: ZERO]. How many questions dealt with gay marriage, abortion, the environment, education, health or other social policies? [Answer: ZERO]. The opening statement and every question dealt exclusively with Iraq and the war on terror.
GWB is no great communicator and no great thinker. He didn't become President in the first place based upon a different perception among the American people.
Even his detractors will have to admit that Bush appears (last night and always) strongest when he speaks from his convictions and from the heart. His father lost re-election when he gave the appearance of becoming detached from the American people and unaware of their pains, fears, and concerns.
What was striking to me was the number of times GWB made it clear that he understands the feelings and pains of others and how his policies have direct consequences to people. This was true with regard to the families who have lost loved ones in war. This was true when he said he understood that Iraqis don't like occupation [He said: "I wouldn't like to be occupied either."] This was true when he acknowledged how tough and painful the last month has been in Iraq.
So, in a nutshell. I think that the Bush team probably feels somewhat satisfied with the outcome of the news conference because it accomplished the objectives they had in calling it in the first place.
Would've been nice if the media whores had the initiative to ask follow-ups...
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Iraq needs to be an international effort and not just a U.S. one. There is more than 1 way to do a good thing, 'our way or the highway' does not sell to me, it doesn't sell to the world, and come November its not going to sell to the American public.
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I agree completely. And I think U.S. needs people from Muslim World especially. Even well known and respected Muslim Clerics from western countries might be of help in negotiations regarding transfer of power.
Bush did say that he'd like a U.N. resolution.... But how do we get the rest of the world to participate after we decided to go to Iraq without U.N. blessing?
One one of the news channels a commentator mentioned that U.N. peacekeepers not likely...as U.N. personal and properties had all ready been targeted by Iraqis.....that commentator might be right...
One of the reporters asked who U.S. would hand the government to on the June 30th deadline and for the life of me I still haven't gotten what Bush replied.
I think Bush seemed nervous during the speech and especially the Q & A session....though...it has been said that he has never been articulately slick...a lot of people like that about him.
To be fair to Bush...I think had to be one of the most difficult press conferences he has ever had to do....so IMHO was a presidential thing to have ... especially knowing that he would be facing really difficult questions.
I also think the press was easier on him than they could have been.
Also IMHO.... the mention of if Sanchez needs more troops....etc...
meant that more soldiers will be called up for active duty ...and those soldiers currently on active duty in Iraq ....soft way of saying current duty likely to be extended.
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Maybe in bumfuk texas people are not concerned about security but in NY we are. As far as Jobs are concerned, we cannot call for free markets and trade while closing our own. Offshoring is a win win. It more "media hype" by yes men than any reaity linked to macroeconomic performance.
I would rather we fight over there. Dimish the threat to the civilized world, over there than over here.
It is amazing that people want somekind of utopian turnover to democracy in a land where ruthless oppression has been the norm. Democracy took years, decades, for it to get established in places like US and India and western Europe. These morons in the middleeast expect to have it overnight.
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Agree we can not call for free markets while closing our own.....problem is that we buy more than we sell........ and U.S. companies shipping jobs overseas because costs are lower... that hurts regular workers. And regular workers need jobs too. The tradesman, assembly workers that earn enough to provide decent home and education for their kids. Not everyone has the ability to be a scientist, business pro, C.E.O.....etc.
~~~~~Once the rest of the world catches up on wages...standard of living etc... then perhaps we see a bit of competition.....but is that gona happen any time soon?
On the point about democracy. Agree totally. Will take years. And on that point I do think Bush cabinet mislead the American people when making the case for the invasion of Iraq.
The question about timing of the news conference should be a slam dunk. GWB took some flake by staying in Crawford while the American soldiers had one of the roughest weeks in Iraq for a long time. Returning back to White House this was the least he could do... compensating, actually.
And since the whole conference was about Iraq and war on terror... so there were no questions on Economy or anyother thing. It was kinda given. However, even if some questions were planted, many weren't. Bush was clearly uncomfortable and some questions were really pointed and relevant.
another look at the babbling Bush performance..