Burrying a man alive-Syria

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I really hope it is a fake. That said, I really do wonder what the Muslim leadership is doing when these kind of atrocities are happening. It is high time that OIC takes a stand on this. Or is the OIC just defunct.

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OIC is a defunct organization, no value what so ever on the world stage. During the past 30 years or so we have had the Afghan Jehad, Iraq Invasion of Kuwait, First Iraq War, Second Iraq War, WOT, drone attacks on Pakistan, Israeli attacks on Lebanon and Palestinian areas but OIC was no where to be seen.

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Same is being done by the opposition. Check Youtube.

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the syrian leadership and members of army who are committing the atrocieties are alawi and if you think they muslims then i must be a spaceman.

they have socrates and plato as their prophets they borrow many beliefs from christianity, they don't belive in praying nimaz, going on hajj and they celebrate christmas.

It is no wonder they have no problem and take great pleasure in slaughtering muslims in syria.

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All these years I was under the impression that Syria was an Islamic country ruled by muslims.

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no, its ruled by shias

but i must admit they did a good job of hiding it for so many years

amazing PR

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It's not ruled by Shias, it's ruled by Alawis. Shias don't believe in a Trinity of Allah , Muhammad (pbuh) and Ali (ra) , but Alawis do believe in that!

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Let us not turn this into a Shia Sunni Alawi issue. I think it is time that somebody stood up and did something about this carnage. The longer the situation remains like this, the better it is for the western powers to start meddling in the internal affairs of Syria.

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I think it is an Alawi issue … Not Shi’a nor Sunni - Just Alawi -

After the death of Hafez al-Assad in 2000, his son Bashar al-Assad maintained the outlines of his father’s governance.[SUP]citation needed][/SUP] Although the Alawis comprise the entirety of the top military and intelligence offices, government employees from lower bureaucratic ranks are largely from the majority Sunni Muslim faith, who represent about 74% of Syria’s population. Today the Alawis exist as a minority, but are the most politically powerful sect in Syria and the only one with direct government control

They are pagans according to Ibn Kathir (RA) …

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as salam alaikum, having conceded that i do not know a great deal about alawis, from what i do know, i maintain the position that they are a branch of shiaism. furthermore between them and ismailis i believe are the best representatives of shiaism, and what is sometimes coined as shia islam. traditionally they would have been refered to as apparant ghulats thus enabling a quick fatwa on their religion, but today apparant ghulats are the norm further binding their position with the, newly rising leaders of shia religion, the 12ers.

the situation we see today in syria where the alawis and the 12ers are killing sunnis is not a purely political merger but has some religious coming togather. my basis for this particular view is reports a few years ago which highlighted the shifting of alawi positions towards the 12ers, i remember thinking why the regime allow it. eventually coming to the conclusion that the alawis lack confidence in their own version and have adopted a strategy of shifting towards 12ers.

regarding the belief in trinity of alawis, i find, leftalone to flourish, 12erism has similar beliefs. for example the following is from 12ers (commonly refered to as shias) Kill sparrows, they are sunnis - YouTube

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This is the problem with supporters of khawarij like Sipah e Sahaba. They know jack about anything and yet they hurl fatwas on Muslims left and right, and support waging their evil fasaad on Muslims.


Guys, remember that their leader ibn Wahhab had declared Ottomans kafir as well. And based on this fatwa on the only caliphate of the time, these mufsideen considered killing of Muslims, usurpation of property of Muslims, and slavery of Muslims; to be justified ("jaaiz").
Ironically, while yesterday these khawarij were fighting Ottoman Muslims by calling them kafir, today they are actually hand in hand with the real infidels (kafir) and occupiers of Islam's first Qiblah, the sehooni.

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i maintain the position that they are a branch of shiaism.
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Qadianis/Ahmadis are a branch of sunnism. If tomorrow Ahmadis do something wrong, would it be justified to abuse all sunnis?
What a stupid thinking! There is a direct correlation between the intelligence of people and the extremist/racist views they espouse.

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furthermore between them and ismailis **i believe **are the best representatives of shiaism,
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YOU believe? A person who considers Sipahe Sahaba khawarij a "moderate" group?
So much for you beliefs.

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Wahhabi khawarij calling themselves sunnis is a joke on all sunnis. Ibn Wahhab considered Ottomans (that is, sunnis) similar to the kuffar of Makkah.
If both Wahhabis and Barelvis are "sunnis" acc to some "defined borders" then why did ibn Wahhab called other Muslims as kafir and mushrik?

Again an ignorant assertion worthy of a supporter of fasaad on Muslims.

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i see you want to talk about saudi arabia, i fully understand this need of shiites, however i am unswayed by this diversion.

answer the question **If Alawis are shiites or not?

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now here is where it gets really interesting **if alawis are not shias and not muslims what are the 12ers (inc wilayat faqih religious representatives of the whole 12er religion) doing supporting them in killing innocent sunnis (muslims)?

**the question is open to all

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Not every Shia looks at oppression through their sectarian spectacles; Bashar is a sick joke, and I feel for the Syrian people, they either have to stick with the douchebag Assad or the douchebag rebels.

Most of the Shias I have talked to that think this whole situation in Syria is irrelevant are pro-WF "rebellious" 18 year olds who are sadly more Irani than they are Pakistani.

Now stop this.