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Stop your Qadiyani crap already. Do you think you are insulting people by calling them that? I don't feel insulted at all, at least these people are decent human beings unlike some others...
Why are you bothered? I will call out the qadianis whenever I see them or hear them or read them. I will call out their false beliefs. So I ask again, are you qadiani? If so, it's justified for you to not believe in jihad and defending Islam by fighting because that's what Qadianism is about.
I'm not Qadiani.
What does this thread have to do with this at all? Are you that insecure about your religion that you have to mock Ahmadis whenever you have the chance? What does this thread have to do with Jihad? LOL I only see a few insecure men who don't seem to have the brains to debate Vilks to death with overwhelming arguments and instead have to resort to violence like cavemen.
If these cavemen would atleast have tried to keep their feelings under control it would have been Jihad in some kind of a way.
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^^ so you called Official Dialogues maybe a better kind of Jihad? Mid East Dialogues, Iran Nuclear Dialougues, Kashmir Dialouges, Making 9-11 a fake reason with a backing of Osama bin Laden and Attacking Afghanistan without any Dialogues, Bombing Bairut without any Dialogues. Which thing are the non-Muslim Country have accepted rather than just bombing that land?
They can allow and HELP Israel to attack, or prepare to attack in case of Iran, its neighboring countries and when its comes to them they call it Terrorism?
If you can say stop supply of Oil (from GCC countries), then anyone will come with another statement of Hazrat Usman Ghani (RTA), that he bought a well of water and even let non Muslims to have water from it free of charge.
If you say Islamic teachings are OLD and need to modernized then accept this kind of Jihad too. Although Jihad is not only using fanatics against Children and Women or people who are Muslims but to Jihad against Kufar.
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^How can you compare a douchbag insulting the Prophet (PBUH) with any of the things that you have mentioned in your post?
How are all these things related to this Video?
Holding back emotions and feelings which can lead to bad things is Jihad, that's what I meant in my post.
Please start a new thread If you want to discuss another topic.
Lars Vilks is a Pig. A Pig loves to get dirty....this is exactly what he wants publicity.....for such people any kind of publicity is a good publicity.
By promoting this video, you are promoting this Pig.
I'm not Qadiani.
What does this thread have to do with this at all? Are you that insecure about your religion that you have to mock Ahmadis whenever you have the chance? What does this thread have to do with Jihad? LOL I only see a few insecure men who don't seem to have the brains to debate Vilks to death with overwhelming arguments and instead have to resort to violence like cavemen.
If these cavemen would atleast have tried to keep their feelings under control it would have been Jihad in some kind of a way.
It does have to do with this thread since Qadianis do not believe in Jihad. And the brothers are waging a jihad in a way. Now if a Qadiani happens to reply to my thread on the subject of Muslims standing up for their Prophet(saw), then I automatically know how they would of reacted, just like a modernist Muslim would, sitting in the lap of the kuffar! Saying things like "All love no war.." "dialogue brothers!" Just like they did when the British were in India. Pathetic bunch of people they are. Their cult runs on materialism. They have nothing to do with Islam. They are the ones who insult our Prophet(saw) daily by claiming a prophet after our Holy Prophet(saw)! They invited me to talk about their beliefs, I do not start out of the blue. If they start, I will not stop. :)
And you may ask why I'm calling them out, even on web forum at that, I need to, it's my duty to protect the deen from the pests, from the cults! If we don't call them out, a non-believer would fall prey to them (adding insult to their own past beliefs!), or some ignorant Muslims who don't know anything about Islam today, they call qadianis and aga khanis their brothers, without knowing what their so-called brothers/sisters believe in! Next thing you know they're attending their temples, next thing you know they're introduced to new way of praying, next thing you know they're praying just like that! SubhanAllah, there are live examples of these ignorant people who left Islam because of these cults in UK. It is a big fitna. Muslims really need to be serious about these groups, they are creating doubts in the minds of our youth and taking them away from the sunnah. It's much more important in times like today where Muslims are being attacked left/right, the weak among us will fall prey to anything, believe me. People sell the sunnah for a petty job! You think there no people among us today who sell ISLAM (hence their soul) just for a petty pay cheque???????????? It's a serious matter, take it seriously or sit on the side lines and let others carry on.
What the hell are you doing on the lap of the “Kuffar” in CANADA then? Please join your brothers in Afghanistan or Somalia. I bet you’ll start crying after a day or so because you wouldn’t be able to fulfill your Internet addiction.
Actually it was Maulana Dard, an Ahmadi who convinced Qaid e Azam to come back to India to take leadership of the Indian Muslims again. He left India because Muslims kept fighting among themselves and your Mullahs were even against the idea of a separate state for Muslims. And 60+ years later, people like you who are “sitting on the lap of the Kuffar” and your Mullahs are talking crap about Ahmadis.
Ahmadis do believe in Jihad as far as I know and not only the greater Jihad, but also the minor Jihad.
http://www.alislam.org/books/study-of-islam/jihad.html
Once again, do you think you are better than the Prophet (PBUH)? Who gives you the right to punish people who commit blasphemy, when not even the Prophet himself did anything.
I sometimes wonder what It would be like If Christians would start to punish Muslims for blasphemy, since they believe that Jesus (PBUH) was God and we tell them that their religion is wrong and Jesus (PBUH) wasn’t GOD, but a man…Would be alot of dead Muslims right there…
So now the kuffar own this Earth? This world belongs to Allah and every so-called nation on the face of this earth belongs to Allah. 
I have the right to live anywhere I please. I also have the right to defend my brothers.
regarding the killing of a blasphemer I gave you an example from the sunnah in my previous post, read it and then answer back. The Sahaba killed the Jew who insulted/mocked Rasulullah sallalhu alayhi wasallam, if they did it, who are we not to? Obviously it don’t mean start killing on the streets, there’s rules for everything, if your under the leadership of an Ameer, you ask his permission and then he will decide with shura..etc But that’s a whole different issue.
And please let’s not get into Qadianis believing in Jihad, if they did, they would of fought the British alongside the Muslims. Anyway why am I even pointing this out, Qadianis should first embrace Islam then they can promote their belief in Jihad.
and Muslims don’t draw Isa alayhi salam. Just so you know 
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By that very same logic, why should I pay for the food that I buy from the super market? It all belongs to Allah. And If I take it home with me without paying, why is it called stealing? LOL Why shouldn’t I be able to move to your parents’ place and live without paying any rent, since it all belongs to Allah?
Defend verbally, yes. But If you go as far as what your “brothers” are doing in that Video, then no. You don’t have that right, because you would be violating the laws of that very country and violating the laws of a country is against Islamic teachings.
WOW you people go as far as violating Islamic teachings to make a point. How sad…
Who are you trying to fool with that Hadith? Kab ibn Al-Ashraf was punished for treason, not blasphemy. 
Really dude, try to use your logic, If Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) has ordered to kill ibn Al-Ashraf for blasphemy, why didn’t he order to kill the people who have verbally and even physically abused our Prophet (PBUH) before? The Sahabas were so angered by those people and were ready to kill them, but our beloved Prophet (PBUH) asked them to control their anger and let them be. Does that make any sense to you?
Do you know that it’s actually Islamophobes who are trying to twist this hadith and make it seem like the Prophet ordered to kill ibn Al-Ashraf for Blasphemy? They must be thanking people like you for making their work easier.
How do you actually know that Ahmadis didn’t fight for independence against the British? Who told you this? Were it the same people who told you that the punishment for blasphemy is death?
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Lars Vilks and CP, both are the same - no clue on respecting other people's beliefs, and always spewing hatred while claiming moral superiority. a definite threat to peaceful and moderate societies.
I am not living on this land without paying the crazy taxes, I’m not living on this land without paying for my house, I’m not living on this without having to pay for anything… get my point?
Bro, if someone was to insult my mother to my face, maybe the first time I’d let it go pass me, but the second time I’m not going to just stand there and have some “dialogue”. Maybe you have that patience and wisdom but sorry I do not have that in my life. The Prophet (saw) has been insulted many a times but these kuffar do not want to listen, you really want to just sit there and have petty dialogues with these filthy pigs? Seriously?
and regarding the hadith, I know that wasn’t the** only reason** he was killed. But he was killed nonetheless for insulting the Prophet(saw).
and blasphemy is punishable by death, all scholars are agreed upon this. Just that we don’t have a true Islamic state, we can’t carry out the punishment (like I already mentioned my previous post).
Again what’s up with you and Qadianis? Are you so attached to them you want to defend these people? All I’m going to say, they are non-Muslims, the ulema and pious people defeated them, and laws in Pakistan against Qadiani fitna are there for a reason.
So you have problem with the ruling? Or me?
It is related that Jabir was heard to say that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, *"Who will deal with Ka'b ibn al-Ashraf? He has insulted Allah and His Messenger." **Muhammad ibn Maslama said, * "Do you want me to kill him, Messenger of Allah?" He replied, "Yes." He went to him and said, "This one - meaning the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, - has imposed on us and asked us for sadaqa." He said, "As well. By Allah, you will be tired of him." He said, "We have followed him and we dislike to leave him until we see where his affair will end." He continued speaking to him until he was able to kill him. **
It is related from Jabir that the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, **"Who will deal with Ka'b ibn al-Ashraf?" Muhammad ibn Maslama asked, "Do you want me to kill him?" He answered, "Yes." He said, "Then give me permission to speak." He said, "I have done it."
[Bukhari] **
I don't think there's anything else I can say about the ridiculousness of your extremist views that hasn't already been said.
But on a historical note, most of the early biographers of the Prophet believe that Kab b. al-Ashraf was killed because he went to Mecca after the Battle of Badr and attempted to incite war by telling the Meccans to take revenge against the Prophet Mohammed. This was a special case of treasonous activity; as others have already pointed out, the Prophet did not order the killings of many other people who openly mocked and insulted him during his lifetime.
Frankly, this is why I think it's ridiculous to attempt to justify blanket statements on Islamic ideology with isolated ahadis or (parts of) verses of the Quran in isolation and completely out of context...though both Muslim extremists and Islam-bashers enjoy doing so as it allows them to twist Islam to suit their respective needs.
Lars Vilks and CP, both are the same - no clue on respecting other people's beliefs, and always spewing hatred while claiming moral superiority. a definite threat to peaceful and moderate societies.
well put
I am not living on this land without paying the crazy taxes, I'm not living on this land without paying for my house, I'm not living on this without having to pay for anything..... get my point?
So not only are you sitting on the lap of the Kuffar, but you are also funding their Kuffar, secular government. :p
and blasphemy is punishable by death, all scholars are agreed upon this. Just that we don't have a true Islamic state, we can't carry out the punishment (like I already mentioned my previous post).
Well then these scholars are violating the Quran.
Again what's up with you and Qadianis? Are you so attached to them you want to defend these people? All I'm going to say, they are non-Muslims, the ulema and pious people defeated them, and laws in Pakistan against Qadiani fitna are there for a reason.
Well what's up with you and the Taliban?
I like to defend people who deserve to be defended.
By calling someone who recites the Kalima a non-Muslim, you are closer to being a non-Muslim yourself than them. That's what our beloved Prophet (PBUH) has taught us. But you don't seem to be concerned about that I guess...
Lars Vilks and CP, both are the same - no clue on respecting other people's beliefs, and always spewing hatred while claiming moral superiority. a definite threat to peaceful and moderate societies.
qft
By calling someone who recites the Kalima a non-Muslim, you are closer to being a non-Muslim yourself than them. That's what our beloved Prophet (PBUH) has taught us. But you don't seem to be concerned about that I guess...
not true, the sahaba and the messenger (saw) would not tolerate the falsehood of the qadianis. not only do they claim to offer a new prophet, they reject the teaching of the true Prophet sallallahu alaihi wasalam. imo for offering a new religion the sahaba may have beheaded them, for trying to deceive muslims the sahaba would definetly have beheaded them. we as individuals can leave the matter to Allah ajjawazal, as long as we know the falsehood offered by the qadianis
as for lars vilks, hope he keeps getting uppercuts. and the media tire of making him a hero
not true, the sahaba and the messenger would not tolerate the falsehood of the qadianis. not only do they claim to offer a new prophet, they reject the teaching of the true Prophet sallallahu alaihi wasalam. imo for offering a new religion the sahaba may have beheaded them, for trying to deceive muslims the sahaba would definetly have beheaded them. we as individuals can leave the matter to Allah ajjawazal, as long as we know the falsehood offered by the qadianis
as for lars vilks, hope he keeps getting uppercuts. and the media tire of making him a hero
And you know that because you are one of the Sahabas, yeah?
What teachings of the Prophet (PBUH) do they reject?
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Withhold [your tongues] from those who say "There is no god but Allah" , do not call them kafir. Whoever calls a reciter of "There is no god but Allah" as a kafir, is nearer to being a kafir himself.
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This is what our Prophet (PBUH) teaches. Killing and beheading is what your Mullahs teach. No respect for the human life at all.
Yeah, it's all just your opinion, not what Islam teaches...
double post
And you know that because you are one of the Sahabas, yeah?
What teachings of the Prophet (PBUH) do they reject?
This is what our Prophet (PBUH) teaches. Killing and beheading is what your Mullahs teach. No respect for the human life at all.
Yeah, it's all just your opinion, not what Islam teaches...
Can you please tell the source from where you copied this or the original source you are relating the quoted part of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)
2ndly Why Qadiyanis Dont call Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and thinking Muhammad the one who came 1400 years ago and not the one that came later?
Lars Vilks and CP, both are the same - no clue on respecting other people's beliefs, and always spewing hatred while claiming moral superiority. a definite threat to peaceful and moderate societies.
LOL comparing Lars Viks to a person who Love the Allah's Last prophet. I mean when you indian will try to think and speak rationally?
First go and get some knowledge about Islam.