BREAKING NEWS: Presidential Election/ Zardari Elected as President of Pakistan

I guess jiyalays would equal to political base of a party? I don't see anything wrong with that. I think what people like you are over looking is that our political system is not mature enough, and for it to become mature we have to let the system work, & let political parties developed basic ideologies, and what they're want & how they will deliver services to the nation. In the process they will make mistakes & elect clowns like Zardari, but the point is eventually system will correct itself in due time, and filter out these clowns.

BTW, take the US example. It took the US over 232 years & a civil war to developed 2 party political system. In Pakistan same thing was about to happen ie PML and PPP until army got involved and uprooted the system yet again & created the splinter group, the Q-league. Army's involvement in politics is never a good thing any country & almost all of Pakistan's problems, including politically instability, can be traced back to armys involvement in politics.

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I hope we wont regrat this in future.

I have been reading Cowasjee’s columns in dawn for while now & if I remember correctly he has been calling for Mushrraf resignation for while now. Now he is feeling nostalgic about Mushy’s era. I dunno maybe its the old age, but I think the guy is losing it now. In the eyes of law & the Constitution AAZ has more legitimacy than Mushrraf ever had. He is legitimately elected president, unlike Mushrraf.

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^^
If you dont like the message Shoot the messenger..

AAZ might have more legitimacy than Mushraff ever had, but what about credibility. Mush was atleast loved in his initial days at the helm. How about Mr 10 percent. What good would he do for the country. Maybe now he would become Mr 40 percent.

Please re-read the article. He mentions the phrase "Best of the worst". I think the comment is apt and telling.

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Oye,tusi kithay ho, muchaan vat kay tay toor he hor nay houn tay…
Its been a while since I’ve seen a post from you and that also so true and
ironic. Pleasure Praa!
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I was reading Allama Iqbal's Zarb-e-Kaleem last night and came across the following verses, which I think perfectly represent Pakistan's present political situation:

Main kaar-e-jahan se nahi aagah w'laikin
Arbaab-e-nazar se nahi posheeda koi raaz

Kar tu bhee hukumat kay wazeeron ki khusaamad
Dastoor naya, aur nai daur ka aagaaz

Maloom nahi, hai yeh khushaamad ke haqeeqat
Keh day koi ullu ko agar "raat ka shehbaz!"

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Presidential Election/ Zardari Elected as President of Pakistan

god help pakistan with zardari now the president - it will diffo get worst

Guardian’s profile of Mr 10%

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/sep/05/pakistan.zardari

To some, Asif Ali Khan Zardari is a corrupt, bullying chancer who was a political liability for his late wife, Benazir Bhutto. To others, the 53-year-old politician is a likeable, experienced and sharp-witted middle-aged man who finally has his chance. For a few, he is all these things at once. One thing is sure: Zardari, who is expected to be elected Pakistan’s new president tomorrow, is a highly controversial figure and seems unlikely to be the man who can unite 175 million fractious Pakistanis.
“His first approach is always to make friends - but you wonder when the fist might come out,” said Najam Sethi, editor of several newspapers. “He has a kind of natural intelligence and is very charming,” said one neutral observer who has known Zardari since childhood. “But it is difficult to know whether his charm is a highly effective act or quite how bright he actually is. He could just be doing a good impression of both.”
Such contradictions seem an integral part of the man. Zardari grew up in Karachi, Pakistan’s southern port city, son of a landlord and unsuccessful cinema owner. As a teenager, he was known primarily for his skill at polo and driving fast, though his disregard for risk sometimes had a positive side. When riding one evening in the mid-1980s with an elite equestrian club on the outskirts of Karachi, a foreign diplomat’s daughter rode into a dangerous swamp. “About 50 people stood around watching as she sank into quicksand,” a witness told the Guardian. “Zardari waded in and hauled her out. He’s brave.”
His arranged marriage in 1987 to Benazir Bhutto, the daughter of former Pakistani prime minister Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, surprised many and brought him into the central current of his nation’s turbulent political life. A year later Bhutto led the Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) to victory in elections after the military dictator Zia ul-Haq died in a mysterious plane crash. She promised “food, shelter and clothes” for the masses. Two years later, her administration was dismissed amid allegations of corruption and incompetence. Zardari was imprisoned on charges of blackmail.
Over the next 14 years, Zardari alternated periods of liberty and incarceration. When the PPP regained power in 1993, Bhutto made her husband minister of investment, a controversial decision given the reputation for graft Zardari had acquired during the party’s first stint in office. Through the early 1990s he collected a breathtaking range of allegations of corruption, implication in murder, attempted embezzlement and even drug trafficking.
After a second, lengthier stint in prison following Bhutto’s second fall from power, Zardari was released after lengthy negotiations between the PPP and General Pervez Musharraf, then in power, in 2004. Zardari dismisses the various charges as political smears and, now that Swiss magistrates who seized millions in accounts linked to Bhutto and her husband have dropped their investigations, there is not a single outstanding case against him. “All through his time in prison he showed an incredible resilience,” said one journalist who interviewed him repeatedly. “He always seemed sure the tide would turn.”
No one doubts that Zardari is a survivor. Released in 2004, he kept a low profile, undergoing medical treatment in America and only getting involved in active politics shortly before his wife’s return to Pakistan in October last year. His reappearance at strategy planning sessions in London dismayed many PPP stalwarts. Power has earned him more supporters, however. “He’s an older and wiser man. He’s got health problems, he watches his diet, he doesn’t drink any longer,” said a Pakistani political activist. “He and Benazir were both very young when they came to power. They made mistakes.”
A former close associate from the early 1990s spoke, with no obvious irony given the frequent charges of egregious nepotism levelled at Zardari, of how Bhutto’s widower “always goes out of his way to help out his friends and even those who somehow reach him for help for jobs, financial help etcetera”. But others describe an arrogant, uncultivated and often impatient man ruthless with his enemies. Some accuse Zardari of frequent personal abuse of subordinates. An ally who preferred to remain anonymous said: “He is not a man you want to be on the wrong side of.”
Twenty years’ experience has taught Zardari much about the brutal game of Pakistani politics. When his wife died, he moved swiftly to secure control of the PPP, sidelining his son and skilfully assuming the Bhutto mantle. However, Zardari is far from an intellectual and does not share his late wife’s profound interest in geopolitics or economics, nor her education, eloquence or charisma.
“He doesn’t read much, it’s true,” said an ally. “But you don’t necessarily need to be a bookworm type to be president of Pakistan.” In the Zardari camp there is quiet jubilation. Few predicted this victory. Zardari will savour it.

CV
Born July 22 1955 in Nawabshah, Pakistan
Family Married Benazir Bhutto in 1987 (she was assassinated in 2007), three children, Bilawal, Bakhtwar and Aseefa
Political career Member national assembly 1990-93 and 1993-96; federal minister of the environment 1993-1996; federal minister of investment 1995-96; transformed the power sector by encouraging investment opportunities. Architect of the Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline. Senator 1997-1999; co-chairman, Pakistan Peoples party from 2008
Other posts Director, M/s Zardari Group (Pvt) Ltd

Inside Story (Al-Jazeera)

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This is a joke, I hate the way he laughs and show his teeth, paindu kahin ka!

Hsssshhhh… Ab wo “Sadr-e-Mumlikat” hen… Zira Izzat se Tazkira karo :phajja:

Alhamdulilallah. Great Zardari takes Oath of the President of Pakistan from the Chief Justice of Pakistan, Abdul Hameed Dogar.

God Bless President Zardari. May his reign be a successful one. Ameen. :jhanda:

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Aalsi, mubarrak ho, rejoice, rejoice!! Even though you wanted him as the Great PM under Mush, he shocked you and went straight for the presidency! Love live Great Zardari, greatest president of Pakistan since Quiad-e-Azam :)

I would have thought you would be the one rejoicing. You wanted Musharraf out of the picture... and now you got exactly that. Why not be grateful?

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^ You two are getting old, maddy/malik73, I am rejoicing indeed, but I wanted to share it wtih you guys, mubarak baad de raha hoon aap ko.

That's ok. I just wanted to confirm that you were happy about Zardari becoming our President before we see what the next couple of years brigns for Pakistan.

But I am happy about Musharraf’s ouster MS, though its not all that gloomy for you guys, because your NRO wasnt ousted along with the dictator. With the NRO and great Jirdari, you can join in and celebrate the dictator’s fall with us. Aalsi ludi payo yar! :coolios:

As did the vast majority of Pakistanis, MQM-wallahs excluded of course

Any idea when the newly elected Mr President will go on umra / hajj with his friends / buddies?

Thats what these leaders do when they get elected and go on such trips probably on government expenses.