Boys internet research snags him in FBI web

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WELL, WE live in nervous times.
The terrorists arrive that awful Sept. 11 morning, and the nation spends the past two years trying to cope. The government investigates shadowy places where it never previously stuck its nose, and the civil libertarians shudder. Is Big Brother getting too snoopy? A 12-year-old kid at Boys’ Latin researches a paper on the Bay Bridge, and suddenly the FBI’s Joint Terrorist Task Force shows up in the headmaster’s office.

You could laugh if you didn’t know the jangled nerves that set off such a reaction.

This fall, Dorsey Boyle, a middle-school teacher at Boys’ Latin, the venerable Lake Avenue private school, assigned his classes a series of research papers. The first, on some famous individual. Seventh-grader John McLean picked Abner Doubleday, the baseball legend. The second, on some famous structure. McLean picked the Bay Bridge.

“He went to the Internet to research as much as he could,” Bruce McLean, John’s dad, was saying last week. He laughed a little ruefully. “He wanted to know how it was built and financed, how much concrete and steel went into it. But he was having trouble getting information. So Mr. Boyle told him a couple of Web sites where he could ask questions.”

One was a Bay Bridge Web site. The other, the Maryland Transportation Authority’s.

Several days later, John’s mom, Rosemary McLean, arrived at Boys’ Latin at the end of the school day. Boyle spotted her on the parking lot.

“You’re John McLean’s mother, right?” he said.

“Yes.”

“The infamous John McLean?” he asked. The words were a little surprising, but Boyle had a twinkle in his eye. “Are you here because of what happened?”

John plays on the seventh-grade football team. His mother thought maybe he’d been hurt at practice that day.

“I’m just here to pick him up,” she said. “What’s happened? What’s he been doing?”

Just writing a little paper about a bridge, that’s all - and getting red-flagged by the government because of the questions he was asking.

When the McLeans talked about it that evening, they still had very little information. As it happens, John McLean shares a name (though not the same spelling) with the Bruce Willis character in the terrorist movie Die Hard. Did some FBI investigator stumble into this and think it was a terrorist’s taunting alias?

As it also happens, Bruce McLean, who works for Mercantile Trust, coaches baseball. “I put the kids through a pretty good regimen,” he says. “I go back to the old Oriole way.” Discipline, hard work. A friend, photographer Harry Connolly, gave Bruce McLean a nickname, which has been used in light-hearted e-mail messages: Saddam. Did the FBI add that comic moniker to their list of suspicions?

“But the truth is,” says Bruce McLean, “we were laughing about the whole thing. In fact, I said to John, ‘I have to talk to you.’ He said, ‘What did I do wrong?’ I said, ‘I want you to be perfectly honest with me, son. Do you know where Osama bin Laden is?’ We made it a whole joke. Because you have to laugh at it.”

In an uptight time, laughter helps.

When the Boys’ Latin middle school headmaster, Rick Brocato, went to school the previous morning, he had an unexpected visitor: Jim Drotar of the FBI’s Joint Terrorist Task Force.

“We need verification,” Drotar said. “About someone who claims he’s a student here. It’s about the Chesapeake Bay Bridge.”

Brocato, relaxing on a couch in his office the other day, laughed about it. “I knew some of the boys were investigating bridges,” he said. “The FBI had initials, but not a name. The initials were J.M.” (The FBI had no tie-in to the Bruce Willis character, or any “Saddam” suspicions.)

“Somewhere in his questioning,” said Brocato, “John had mentioned Boys’ Latin. And the FBI guy said, ‘All I need to know is, is he a student here?’ He said terrorists can impersonate people to get information. I assured him John McLean was a student, and he was doing a paper on the bridge. He said, ‘You need to know, students need to identify themselves.’ They’re very sensitive about bridges and tunnels.”

All of this leaves one question: How did the FBI stumble onto the information? Are there agents who spend their days monitoring millions of private messages?

“In today’s environment,” says Baltimore FBI spokesman Barry Maddox, "we take all leads very seriously. We had to make sure this was a legitimate school project. The kinds of questions he was asking about the bridge, we have to have a sense of caution.

“But, no, we don’t sit around monitoring e-mails. This was based on a referral from the Transportation Authority. They’re the ones who red-flagged it, based on the questions they were getting. We followed up. We have enough work without checking e-mails.”

In a nervous time, the mistaken identity’s merely a rueful little laugh

Comment:

Congratulations to the FBI for checking out all possible terrorist leads, be careful everyone what you research and what questions you ask coz you may get yourselves into trouble. How does it feel to live in the west and having to be careful what you say and do, well know we all know what it was like in Soviet Russia. I wonder how well the FBI were doing their jobs pre 9/11 when they allowed planes to be hijacked and then crashed into the WTC.

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FBI was busy checking the stains on the dress worn by Monica instead of focusing on muslim fundamentalists. This case like when I get stopped at the airport and asked to take off my shoes. An incovenience but worth it. If diligence like this prevents another WTC or helps catch a few fundos, I say cast the net farther.

^^ I agree.. they should be working harder.. they should ask you to take off more than just your shoes.. an inconvenience; for those who have to watch, but worth it :k:

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I belong to a local message board that researchs St. Louis, Missouri family and local history, and about a year ago someone wrote to the board claiming, (and probobly legit), to research the underground railroad operating through St. Louis. What they specifically asked for was where to locate older city/architechrual plans that might include old sewage/drainage tunnels and such in the vacinity of the St. Louis Arch.

Kind of creeped me.... I was thinking...gosh what if this person is gona try and scope out the area to lay bombs underneath the Arch and the downtown area. The Arch is known as the "Gateway to the West" ..... so to make a long story short...I did forward this individuals message and email info to the Homeland Security People and never heard anything further, either from that individual or the Security People.

I don't know if the Homeland Security ever contacted or investigated this person.

I just found it a bit strange, (though probobly legit) that the object of finding resources to old city plans/infrastructure to research the underground railroad because St. Louis in the vacinity of the Arch and riverfront was a rather populated city, for example:

In 1804 the population was 9400 persons.
1840 nearly 38000.
1850 about 104000.

During the civil war era the city included confederate sympathisers sinse Missouri was a slaveholding state that remained in the Union, bu during civil had 30,000 fight for the confederate army. Anyhow, seems logical that runaway slaves would have avoided this heavily populated area, and researching the area surrounding the Gateway Arch area for possible slave escape routes wouldn't really be as fruitful as less populated outlaying areas.

Curious what Guppies think. Would you have notified homeland security if similar situation? Or do you think I was overly paranoid?

I would say it's bettere safe than sorry...

My younger cousin went on a trip to florida with some other arab/pakistani muslim friends. On the way they ran out of gas and pulled into this small road to wait for AAA to come with gas. The boys were joking around with video cameras while they waited, after about 10 minutes police cars showed up. Unbeknowst to them, it was the drive way to a chemical plant and they were seen as intruders.

on the same trip, they stopped at a gas station and then decided to pray on the grass near the station, while this was going on and before and after the prayer they were joking around video taping etc...again police were called. there was nuclear power plant down the street and it seemed as if the boys were casing it out.

upon their return to the midwest for university, the FBI called all 5 boys to interview them regarding the 2nd event and then they heard about the 1st event. They were very polite and nice. They did take the video tape from the guys.

From my understanding they were supposed to get the tape back last month. I don't know, it seems a bit too much at times but then again...it is better to be safe than sorry and as long as things are done nicely and no one is jailed without cause then it seems ok.