hey there…first time guppie here…
k…just found this topic so interesting that i had to register…so here r my thoughts on this subject
i don’t think most of u have any clue what ure all talkin bout…u ppl find andicat ugly, not a good paki…or a good muslim…
a) how many of u are really good lookin…so confident in ureselves…hmm? didn’t ure parents ever teach u not to diss other ppl in the looks dept? here u are tellin andicat she’s not a good muslim and waht do u go and do…make fun of god’s creation…lets see u do a better job and make a better creation …
b) bout being a good paki girl…he he…what is a good paki girl…i think paki girls livin outside pakiand are more religious, and faithfull to their culture, moral and ethics than the girls livin in pakistan…how many of u have visited islamabad, lahore and especially karachi in the last yr or 2??? seen what the girls nowadays are wearing? have any of u bothered to see what the models like iraj, zoella, vaneeza and gia ali are wearin??? hell…i think it was gia ali or iraj who dared to bare all…or nearly…she wore somethin similar to what jennifer lopez wore on one of em award nights…she wore a see thru shirt wich was loosely tied at the waist with nothin underneath…u could see things taht i think only she should see or maybe her future husband! might say they r just models…tis their job…but they weren’t born models…they were pakistanis…and first of all…they were muslims…unki upar kiu nahin ungli utha rahey aap log? andicat is wearing nothin as baring as some paki girls have learnt to wear..look…pak’s pop is divided into 50/50…first half is made of ppl who have’t forgetton their roots…the next half is made up ot those families who have just lost themselves in the western tradition…i think andicat has guts to admit she is a pakistani…cuz god knows how many pakistanis are out there who resent the fact taht they r citizens of a corrupt country…andicat may not be a perfect paki mem…but she is one all the same…so live with it!
c)…the thing bout her not being a good muslim…he he…SHE AINT!
so broaden ure horizons ppl…don’t put someone down just cuz u think they dont’ fit in…if other pakistani girls are acting like this…then atleast anidcat’s got recognition for it
andicat…u may not be a perfect paki mem…these ppl may not accept u as one of their own…but i’m happy for u and ure acheivements
now i know some of u are gonna find this hard to digest…but don’t just turn around and go weird on me…just think bout it with utter fairness and maybe with a cool head…
saaaame thing under two threads!!!
well u do whatever u like to do and sorry i 4got to say WELCOME NEW GUPPY!!!
ook ok ok now!!!
well u seems like got interested in this MISS PAKI thinggy …right???
well every body did or should i say they got ANNOYED by it when they heard that there gonna b a MISS PAKI like her!!!
i know u have given many LOGICAL reasons here about being her whatever she is and whatever V r!!!
it was kind a enjoyably while reading all thos things but let mee tell u one thing im an old timer here and thats y let u knoe that GUPPIES here never say what their heart say and U as a GUPPY dont take things sooo hard on u …I MEAN DONT B SOOO SERIOUS about these stuff…it happeneds a lot over here!!!
and now i come to those three points of URS!!!
those were interesting and does make sense but u know u r not really understanding all about it!!!i mean all about this MISS PAKI thinggy!!! ook here i go…well all i wana say that this ----CAT claims to b MISS PAKI without any reason!!! v know v know she was born in PAKISTAN but that doesnt mean that she just get up and go win the BEAUTY LEGEANT!!! v r not saying that she is ugly or whatever … but the main point of saying all those things to her was to tell her to QUIT this BEAUTY LEGEANT thinggy!!!
DONT 4GET THAT PAKISTAN IS A MUSLIM COUNTRY , its other thing that now-a-days ppl dont act like it over there but dont 4get this that there are many other ppl in paak that still care about their country and dont wana this kind S**T over there!!!
she can b the MISS OF WHATEVER COUNTRY but let mee tel u one thing there wasnt any MISS PAKI and there NEVER GONNA B ANY !!!EVER!!!
now no matter to me whatever u call it …as a narrow minded or PAINDOUUUUUUU or old timwr …any thing like that but its not gonna stop US to stop HER from being what she wana be!!!
on the head. I feel bad now that she has gone with a hump in the head but still this was not her place. If you had started postings earlier you may have achieved some positive results cause you are a school teacher.
Hey Miss Khawateen i'm a first time guppy here too but what i wanted to say was that I think they should pick a Miss Pakistan that besides looks is a good role model for other young girls because if she goes around doing whatever haraam things she does it will just make other girls follow which isn't going to be good
Hey fella,
I never was part of a Harem. I am not muslim, and if I knew how hateful you all were I just would never have bothered. I have nothing to prove to educated people, and that is of higher spirituality not just what it says on paper. Young girls follow their own intuition. I have no desire to be a role model for them. Been a model. And it isnt up to you or anyone else to criticise my title. I own it. Don't really want it to be honest. God, like I make a living out of this crass. Goodbye. And know you cannot defeat a winner. And yes I did win my title, however. Take care you sad persons anonymous. And hark you telling people how to live their lives. Go back to repressive depression and for goodness sake dont tell me or anyone else what they should or should not do. I dont tell anyone to do anything. You can interpret it however you like. If Harraaam things mean evil then you must be the devil's diciple. There are good honest people in Pakistan. Most criticism stems from those who left it it appears.
Dear Khatween,
I went to Ontario a while back and Canada is a really enlightened beautiful Country. I was received well there and also in Indiana and New Jersey. Pity some USA Pakistanis are telling me who I am and where I was not supposed to be born. Anyways have a nice day all of you. I never ever mentioned to some that you had to be famous to do charity. They have hard hearts and charity begins at home. I guess English people are more civilised than USA at present but then again so are true Pakistanis.
he he....professor eh? nahin bacha log....u guyz r wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy off! i'm just a 20 yr old college going student in canada buddies........i didn't take anythin to heart.....cuz that's just dumb....waisey.....why professor?
but its really ironic how famous personalities in pakistan are conducting emselves....and get great recognition for it......but poor anidicat got only negitivity (if there's such a word) from us......not fair......pakistan IS an islamic country....total agreement over there.....but if it can allow models runnin around baring all.....then it should just open doors to Miss whatever contests.......and if they think that that is a reall sick thing to do....then models should be banned from barin sooo much.......follow one thing.....don't have double standards...
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Originally posted by Andicat:
*Hey fella,
I never was part of a Harem. I am not muslim, and if *
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AND SOMEONE PLEEEEEEAAASSEEEE......tell her the difference between HARAAM and HAREM.........
I dont know......I wont say anything on looks or charecter or what ever.....but someone whose name is not even close to a pakistani name.....who doesnt remoty look pakistani........AND isnt excepted by Pakistanis.........how can she call herself miss pakistan.........go call your self miss Mars or something.....no one will ever challenge you......you can have the title for as long as you want..........
When Naik larki closed the thread about ms pakistan. She asked me to apologise to Andi. So I went back and read my responses..as a result, andi you have my apologies for my first response to your page as "ewwwwww" which was uncalled for. So you have my apologies for that and other references to your looks by me, although you being a public figure, people will comment on looks, styles, personality etc etc. I feel that my mannerism was not polite and as much as I was just getting on your case, it was not nice, so welcome to our community here.
I still had a few questions that I never heard a reply to.
1- Who sponsors this pageant, and how is it similar to or different from pageants in other countries..that are held in the country itself. What are the credentials of the organization sponsoring it? and how does it compare to organizations that sponsor these contests in for Miss Uk or Miss america or Miss Peru.
2- How can someone be a pageant winner for multiple years since it was my understanding that in most authentic pageants the winner can not compete again.
3- How familiar are you with the country that you feel you are representing. Culture, language, people. How much time have you spent there priot to and after winning this contest.
4- Your social service goals. What did you do prior to winning this contest and what have you done since then. I have not yet found any refrences to any work that you have done, except goal to give part of the money from record sales to some charity when you were looking for some record company to pick you up, which is passive activism and not active.
5- You compare the reception Pakistanis have given you as not being as supportive as pageant winners from other countries get. Do you not also think that even pakistanis who do not have a problem with pageants wonder why it was not held in Pakistan and was it of a sufficient international nature to draw out competition from other countries.
6- If there is a Miss Pakistan winner in NJ, USA :) who is the official one. you or her? Maybe I can invite her over here too :)
MISS PAKISTAN REPLIES
When Naik larki closed the thread about ms pakistan. She asked me to apologise to Andi. So I
went back and read my responses..as a result, andi you have my apologies for my first response
to your page as “ewwwwww” which was uncalled for. So you have my apologies for that and
other references to your looks by me, although you being a public figure, people will comment on
looks, styles, personality etc etc. I feel that my mannerism was not polite and as much as I was
just getting on your case, it was not nice, so welcome to our community here.
I still had a few questions that I never heard a reply to. 1- Who sponsors this pageant, and how is it similar to or different from pageants in other
countries..that are held in the country itself. What are the credentials of the organization
sponsoring it? and how does it compare to organizations that sponsor these contests in for Miss
Uk or Miss america or Miss Peru.
Beauty pageants are private enterprises sponsored by Individual companies on
the stock market and private investors. Like most competitions. Different sponsors
sponsor different years. Check my press releases for original show poster which
names the sponsors on http://www.andicat.web.com. The main sponsor was
Regency Life UK England, a few model agencies etc. Buy the video and it credits all
the sponsors. Video available from link from MP site.
The comparison between Miss UK, etc. is that it is bigger show, it comprises the
whole of Asia. The show at the time I competed went live via Satellite to 30 different
Countries. Excluding those that do not broadcast such shows. That by no means
stops a lady entering a Country title if it is her birthright - which was mine and the
others that auditioned for Miss Pakistan. Most of whom were Brtish Asians. I won
the title in London, UK. #2- How can someone be a pageant winner for multiple years since it was my understanding that
in most authentic pageants the winner can not compete again.
This was and still is a most authentic competition which is held
worldwide in various large Countries. I went on to Miss Carribbean
and Commonwealth representing Miss Pakistan as I had won title
because Pakistan was part of the British Commonwealth. Therefore I
did not need for the show to be staged in Pakistan. It was acceptable
by the organisers to accept British Chinese girls also to represent
China. This is a government-related contest, please note. These shows
are nothing to do with politics or religion. I am Christian and therefore
have not broken any of your religious rules. It is a showcase for
beauty and those who have the criteria to enter it. As the reigning Miss
Pakistan Beauty Queen from Miss Asia no one has yet entered the
Miss Asia show and taken my crown. Probably for religious reasons or
whatever you have been stating previously. Diana Hayden another
Anglo-Indian Miss World 1997 (former Miss India) also got the
prejudice I am receiving by not being Indian. If you want to research
Beauty pageants do so. I do not have organisers answers. Ask your
teachers. I am several contests Winner. I can only speak from my
point of view. Many people persuaded me to enter, who kept referring
to my beauty. I do not do offensive work to my own moral standards,
which yes are of a Western nature but I cannot deny my Eastern
origins. Christians live in Pakistan also. It is not unacceptable to be of
mixed race in these shows. You know very well several Anglo Asians
have held various titles in swimming etc., badmington etc. I did not
make the rules of the pageants. Which are fairly standard. #3- How familiar are you with the country that you feel you are representing. Culture, language,
people. How much time have you spent there priot to and after winning this contest.
I was born in Lahore, Lived there for 4 years It is not prerequiste to
remain in Pakistan nor be an expert in its changing culture or
dialects.English is spoken in Pakistan as you are demonstrating.
Some of you live in Canada and USA and are not disqualified for
competiting for a Country title if its your birthright. There have been
black Miss USA’s. Anglo Indian Miss India, And Anglo Indian Miss
Pakistan ie Andrea Jane Williams. Read press releases. Current and
past. I am still the reigning title holder. If you don’t like it. Then enter
your most beautiful women. If not shut up.(you should be used to
opression. And my use of language is tame compared to some of
yours! I don’t want to go to those levels. I simply cannot) I am a
liberated woman and live in the 21st Century. Some people like to live a
certain lifestyle but close their minds to get it. #4- Your social service goals. What did you do prior to winning this contest and what have you
done since then. I have not yet found any refrences to any work that you have done, except goal
to give part of the money from record sales to some charity when you were looking for some
record company to pick you up, which is passive activism and not active.
I am not a social worker. To be active in these fields I need to give
support to Organisers and Sponsors of various charities, hence my
wanting to contact Imran and Khan and other personalities dedicated
to raising money for charity. I cannot do it alone, shaking a tin at the
corner store! That would be ridiculous. I privately contribute to Water
aid. I want to help the poor in Pakistan but I am a representative to be
used, not abused, to raise money for good causes as is the aim of most
beauty Queen ambassodors.
I#5- You compare the reception Pakistanis have given you as not being as supportive as
pageant winners from other countries get. Do you not also think that even pakistanis who do not
have a problem with pageants wonder why it was not held in Pakistan and was it of a sufficient
international nature to draw out competition from other countries.
Pakistan has its rights to feature whatever competitions it wants. If it
chooses not to have Beauty Pageants it may be because they are
strongly in favour of politics and religion of which pageants do not form
part of. #6- If there is a Miss Pakistan winner in NJ, USA who is the official one. you or her? Maybe I can
invite her over here too?
On doing a miss Pakistan search on internet Aisha Khan from USA
was claiming the Miss Pakistan title. I do not know about that cos I
live in England. Why don’t you witch hunt her like you have done to me?
If she reads the reaction Ive been getting, surely being moslem will
make it worse for her? She does not live in Pakistan but USA
according to her website. Do a search for it,
Famous Quote: No man is an Island, but Miss Pakistan Andrea Jane
Williams is!!! Seems like it now! I can see thru you!!! You are not
really sorry, you just want more information to pick holes in me. Not to further good intention to help those in need. Not Westernised critics like yourself with your bad language and insults. I don’t need to associate with that. And I won’t.
** maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyn this is getting even worst then i thought!!!!!!!!**:D:D;):D:D
keeeeeeeeep it up fellaaaaaaaaaaas!!!!!!
........btw HEY U NAIKOOOOOOOO JEEEEE y the hell did u deleted my post/thread ??????
oh...ok ok i know y cuz i was speaking THE TRUTH inur fffffffffface!!!!! or is it cuz i didnt THRRROOOOOOOOW a party on UUUUUU!!!:D....do need to know my fren!!!
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