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Losty, it is a silly way to look at entrepreneuships..what percentage of whites out of the total white population in the US are running big name companies? How many whites/blacks are running large Indian companies?
take a look at this..http://www.ppic.org/content/pubs/RB_699ASRB.pdf
chinese and Indian entrepreneurs have capitalized on the opportunity.
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are you saying indians are more creative than americans ? I would attribute this phenomemon more to indian entreprenurship than creativity. I can give you many examples with personal experiences with people whom I had known and made it in Silicon Valley; more due to their aggresive entreprenual desires then creativity.But that is a topic in itself.
The indians success is more due to this “bania”(I mean it in a good way) or “competitive” mentality than the creativity. Indians are more inherently competitive than americans due to the way they were broughtup. From Grade -1 in school there is competitions for who will be a “topper” to who will be the 1st one to jump on a running bus or train and get a seat and after that “mine is bigger than yours”. And yes, i have been there and done that (except for the $$$$$$$ parts :o).
This is my opinion based on my personal experience just like you.
A wise man once said " Opinion is like an a..hole , everybody has one"
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what is creativity? Creativity doesn't mean siht...it is the ability to monetize on the idea that makes someone an entrepreneur.
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juniper networks,sycamore, info-space, cirrus logic, qlogic,crystal semi (i think part of cirrus now),OSI systems, come to mind. Also there was a company called mediamagic (i think they were bought out by national semi) that developed the 1st software version of MPEG codec used by virtually all windows os then. There were many other in optical networking during its hay day many in deep shyt now. There are many with $50M+ VC financing, have not gone public yet (e.g. celion networks,nj).
These are people whose founder/co-founder i have personally known or were classmates of frieds etc. I can come with even more that i have personal aquitance with but these should suffice for now.
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Matsui,
I knew this would be your response. I wanted to qualify my post with “as far as my definition of creativity concerned” , but did not. Now you want to know what is creativity and what it is good for.
If einstein owned truck stops instead of wasting his time on physics, he could have owned all the truck stops on NJ TRNPK and would have had a bigger house than that dump in princeton. :D. I suppose you are coming from a banking/finance angle and every thing boils downs to $ and cents. But there are many who are creative for the sake of it.
I did not say “baniagiri” is bad, in fact that is precisely the advantage indinas have over their counterparts.(atleast in hightechs).
If earning $$$$$$$ is the gauge for being creative then there gujju motel owners who can’t sign their names, have more money than many silicon valley wallas.
It is a fact that if society is repressiveand close there are very few ways for people to channel their energy and be creative. The increase in creativity indian society is perhaps the direct result of indians becoming more open or free then before.
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Desinum, we are arguing multiple topics here. Ability to turn a commodity into an asset is perhaps the highest form of creativty. We are talking creativity from a perspective of business, not the arts.
You are dead right about the new Indian openness. This is nto any different from chinese openness, russian openness and any other openness. when a system is introduced that allows individuals to capitalize on their talents and interests...innovation occurs.
This concept of baniagiri is a stupid and idiotic way of thinking. Indians are any less or more banias than Pakistanis. It is that they are better at taking advantage of the opprotunities presented through greater assimilation, openness to new ideas and a foundation built on 40+ years of top notch educational institutions churning out graduates in the thousands.
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we (or atleast i was) were debating if indians were more or less creative than their counterparts in USA..Not chinkoos or ruskies… wether repressiveness of society has any roles to play. Those succesful indians you keep mentioning can only be compared to those americans at MIT or stanford not local communitiy college grads. If you take “americans” at say mit’s media labs… bostons high tech corridor is full of startup founded by them.
If you thought we were debating pakisatani vs. indians, then there isn’t any difference of opinion as pakisatanis are no match.
“bania” part is used in jest to keep a few people in good humor on this forum. As you know that someone is probably itching to post that..it is a preemptive strike:D
This thread went off the tangent so many time..my head is spinning… i am disoriented…i have to start reading from the top again…when i get time…it is almost 4 on friday…cold…windy…time for some brewsky…have a nice weekend.
…jai pakisatani…:danda
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stop fighting like retards... one phrase is enough for matsui : You are a Gujrati boy. OUCH!
Check Mate.
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Gan ma,
your name in gujju words for you =>Gan ma Dilati o n
or => Gan ma bi lati o n
both roughly means…you like it up your rear end.
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^ 
by that logic… your name desinumone roughly means desi gandho num one… retard
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^ this should be nominated for the most misguided racist and dumb post in recent times. No wonder he lost his soul!
right - Indians take a month of, get married and get paid millions for sweeping the floor! must be their good looks