Over Tikrit, Iraq…
Black Hawk Down in Iraq, Five U.S. Troops Wounded](Yahoo News: Latest and Breaking News, Headlines, Live Updates, and More)
Another three US troops were killed yesterday as well. Things are getting real bad for the American’s in Iraq, with them being attacked everywhere, in the Shia south, the Sunni triangle and the Kurdish north.
America is a great nation who has and will continue to sacrifice the lives of its soldiers to bring about peace and security in Iraq. No matter how many American soldiers are killed and billions of dollars it costs to re-build Iraq re-construction of Iraq wil happen. All the money will come from the pocket of the American government, if need be taxes will be raised and citizens will be conscripted because America has a duty to humanity. Once Iraq has been sorted out then we will look to move into Iran or Syria and do the same thing. Some people think that we are in Iraq for our own benefit i.e the oil, this is just lies.
For once I agree with you showkot.
Re: Black Hawk Down…
**
Earlier, three U.S. soldiers were wounded in Baghdad by an explosion that Army experts believe was caused by a mortar round. None of the wounds appeared to be life-threatening, the spokesman said.
**
They werent killed, they were wounded…
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/10/25/sprj.irq.main/index.html
Three U.S. soldiers were killed yesterday, Friday.
[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by showkot: *
America is a great nation who has and will continue to sacrifice the lives of its soldiers to bring about peace and security in Iraq. No matter how many American soldiers are killed and billions of dollars it costs to re-build Iraq re-construction of Iraq wil happen. All the money will come from the pocket of the American government, if need be taxes will be raised and citizens will be conscripted because America has a duty to humanity. Once Iraq has been sorted out then we will look to move into Iran or Syria and do the same thing. Some people think that we are in Iraq for our own benefit i.e the oil, this is just lies.
[/QUOTE]
last i heard USA was begging the international community to open its account for iraq. who will grab all that money? USA ofcourse.
The US will give its companies most of the lucrative contacts to rebuild Iraq, so in essence what it puts in, it will get back but with huge profits. The US never gets involved unless theres something in it for them.
[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by showkot: *
America is a great nation who has and will continue to sacrifice the lives of its soldiers to bring about peace and security in Iraq. No matter how many American soldiers are killed and billions of dollars it costs to re-build Iraq re-construction of Iraq wil happen. All the money will come from the pocket of the American government, if need be taxes will be raised and citizens will be conscripted because America has a duty to humanity. Once Iraq has been sorted out then we will look to move into Iran or Syria and do the same thing. Some people think that we are in Iraq for our own benefit i.e the oil, this is just lies.
[/QUOTE]
Talk for yourself. I don't want my taxes frittered away in building road blocs all over the middle east. Removing Saddam was ok but the way we thumbed over noses at other nations wasn't smart. We could have used our considerable diplomatic missions (to build a coalition) instead of wanting to prove testosterone.
I have lost confidence in bush and gangs ability to arrive at correct priorities and methods.
Foolishly spending money that doesn't get Iraqies or us anywhere or spilling blood where Rumsfeld laments "how do we know we won't create 10 terrorists for each that we neutralize" - that is an insult to Americans and Iraqis
Well said, Tom Sawyer.
R U for Real!! 
Well i thought i would post something which is explaining why America could be in Iraq but it seems not many people are convinced. SO why then is America in Iraq?
Steal the resources e.g oil
install pro-American Hamid Karzai
Stop the revival of Islam
Divide Iraq into 3 parts, shia south, kurdish north and sunni centre
Give protection and security to Israel
Electioneering by Bush and his neo-cons
More contracts for AMerican companies.
Threaten Iran, Syria and saudi
Anyone agree with this or disagree or care to add a few more
Another US soldier killed, as Paul Wolfowitz escapes a deadly attack on his hotel in Baghdad…
Wolfowitz Escapes Deadly Baghdad Strike](Yahoo News: Latest and Breaking News, Headlines, Live Updates, and More)
I think something like a dozen American soldiers have been killed in the last 10 days, in an increasing number of attacks (some 20 a day) against US forces?
[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by TomSawyer: *
Talk for yourself. I don't want my taxes frittered away in building road blocs all over the middle east. Removing Saddam was ok but the way we thumbed over noses at other nations wasn't smart. We could have used our considerable diplomatic missions (to build a coalition) instead of wanting to prove testosterone.
I have lost confidence in bush and gangs ability to arrive at correct priorities and methods.
Foolishly spending money that doesn't get Iraqies or us anywhere or spilling blood where Rumsfeld laments "how do we know we won't create 10 terrorists for each that we neutralize" - that is an insult to Americans and Iraqis
[/QUOTE]
I will second that i dont want my taxes to go to bush campaign to help iraq. Even if it was someone else besides bush himself i would have considered but for some reason i cant stand that guy. Son is following the bloody path of his father.
-Salman
r u for real showkat? tell me your post was purely sarcastic, please...
Sinse U.S. soldiers are in Iraq, money has to be provided for their well-being and money has to be provided also for the Iraqi' to repair infrastucture that was destroyed by American bombs. And the American taxpayer is gona pay for the majority of the cost.
I don't want my tax monies buying/creating/studying/testing dangerous and deadly weapons of mass destruction.
I didn't want my tax monies spent initiating war with Iraq.
However, for U.S. soldiers to clear out of Iraq today without having some type of security force in place, either a U.N. or a newly created untainted Peace Force to maintain security would be a bigger disaster than the disaster at present.
Probobly a good majority of Iraqi's blame the U.S. entirely for the state of Iraq today, as well as a good majority if Non-Iraqi Muslims.
It's not hard to do and in some instances I would agree.
However it's easy to curse the U.S. and believe that the U.S. objective is to divide and conquer Iraq.
It's easy to blame the U.S. on every negative fact of life in Iraq and easy to believe that if the U.S. leaves Iraq soil all Iraq's problems dissapate.
But if U.S. left tomorrow Iraq's problems would still be there, probobly compounded. The differences and devisiveness of Northern and Southern Iraqi Shia's, Sunni's, and Kurds would still be there.
The U.S. didn't create those problems. Saddam's dictatorship did not solve them.
Saddam's dictatorship contained those problems, usually by the use of intimidation, including torture and imprisonment and sometimes death.
If the U.S. left tomorrow, with no security established, what do you think would become of the Iraqi's?
IMHO, that first many casualties occur due to lawlessness and anarchy because they are forced to live in a non-governed dog-eat-dog type hell with limited access to food, medicines, drinking water, necessary to survive. ... Then possibly massive civilian casualties caused by political and/or religious zealots battling for power that would ultimately result in another dictatorship.
And by the way... Bush does not nor ever did recieve my vote and those in congress that voted to grant Bush the decisive power to use force on Afghanistan and Iraq have not earned my vote.
[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by Starsky: *
The US will give its companies most of the lucrative contacts to rebuild Iraq, so in essence what it puts in, it will get back but with huge profits. The US never gets involved unless theres something in it for them.
[/QUOTE]
Starsky,
For a moment try to imagine the possible contracts U.S. companies might gain in the rebuilding of Iraqi's infrastructure as if they are investors in a business.
Yes. Those companies that attempt to do business in Iraq are there to ultimately profit by the investment, however, the investment they make will be at a cost and those companies will have to have the ways and means to make that Iraq foreign investment profitable.
Consider this. Say the U.S. (joe schmoo taxpayer funds) provide money to rebuild say the #2 oil refinary and an American Company gets the contract.
Doesn't mean that the American Company owns the oil that flows through the refinary. Or the oil field that provides the oil. In fact if taxpayer funds are used to subsidize rebuilding of this #2 oil refinary the company that gained the contract is profiting from the American taxpayer.
Who do you suppose the Joe Shmoo is that will be working at these oil refinaries, utility plants, water treatment facilities that American Companies might gain contracts to rebuild and repair subsidized by American Taxpayers?
IMHO, majority of workers by simple geographic location will be the Joe Schmoo Iraqi's.
[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by Starsky: *
The US will give its companies most of the lucrative contacts to rebuild Iraq, so in essence what it puts in, it will get back but with huge profits. The US never gets involved unless theres something in it for them.
[/QUOTE]
Maybe so, but in the process it has also killed some 8000 Iraqi civilians, and continues to do so almost every day. In fact it has killed far more than twice the people that were killed in the 9/11 terrorist attacks, making you wonder who is the bigger terrorist?
Another one goes down…
Black Hawk helicopter crashes - soldier killed](Yahoo News: Latest and Breaking News, Headlines, Live Updates, and More)
Crashes or shot down? I didnt know the americans were taking lessons from the IAF.
Resistance is becoming stronger, i wonder where these guys are getting their assistance from? Iran? Syria? Turkey? Seems there is atleast one group backing the Iraqi Resistance. Vive La Resistance!
Indeed. Scores of US soldiers killed in this latest attack…
Four US soldiers killed helicopter crash](BBC NEWS | Middle East | Six die in US helicopter crash)