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Thanks for your honesty Prototype, i think all of us here really appreciate it. i really like the pink suit :) simple but cute!
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well said prototype.
but still i do hav to agree that there r some vendors/designers who nodoubt totally rip off ppl from abroad.
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ofcourse there are..you are right!
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For some ppl abroad, its the only way they can get suits and if someone really likes the suit and is willing to pay the price, its ok why should it bother me ???!! Why does it bother me if in your opinion someone is being ripped off, if they are totally happy with the suit and feel they payed the right price.
I have just recently come back from pakistan and the prices for cloths and kaam is very high, a simple decent suit kapra without kaam will cost u now upwards 2000 Rs anything less then that is not of good quality. Long gone are the days of 500 Rs suits 
sorry its funny to hear that ppl still believe that u can get good kapra for this amount.
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^good job missing the point of my thread which was that I THINK people do not know what they are paying for. and from some of the responses here, it's' clear that they many don't know the difference between machine and thread embroidery.
my mentioning of cost was only an illustration of the prices of those kinds of suits. if it's so unbelievable to you, change to 2000RS upwards because my point still holds that those are not worth over a hundred dollars.
also, if I can buy a 3 piece chiffon jamawar in city towers where i am no doubt being slightly ripped off for 3,000RS. i'm pretty adamant that in multan i bought 3 piece unstiched cotton with little thread embroidered boti's for less than 1000RS. we are talking 3 months back here.
you clearly didn't bother to read the posts properly before jumping in because i said that my MIL lives in pak and she most certainly does get kapra and embroidery done very cheaply indeed. she's not subject to the foreigners tax we are and she haggles properly. hell, my BIL's wife's sisters were wearing really nice silk banarsi sherwani style outfits with a lof of embroidery on his wedding. i asked how much they were expected over 10,000RS and i was shocked that they cost 6,000RS and weren't even readymade.
anyway, i think you should go back and read the last paragraph of my first post.
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I did read what you said, but I still think your point is not valid.
Looking at the a pic of embroidery without seeing the back of it, I cannot tell if its hand or machine made, and in my opinion seeing the guys sitting on a machine all day and doing it by hand, I think its the same effort as someone doing the daagha with hand or with machine, even though the later is less expensive.
But then again I think, if you get a nice suit and you are happy with it and maybe paid $50 more than you could have but atleast u got something that you are satisfied with, in the end its that whats matters more to satisfied customers.
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well i can't argue with you if you think my point is not valid.
i don't know, everyone in my family (ok, mother, aunties) can tell the difference straight off, without even going close up. the reason i can is because i used to embroider a lot myself (by hand) and my mum has a machine that can do simple embroidery, lol.
i agree that if a person is happy with their outfit it doesn't matter but i also think their satisfaction would drop to 0 if they found out they were paying twice the price. a lot of the reason they are happy is because they **do not know. **ignorance is bliss.
i think prototype did a great job listing her costs. the times i have bought outfits in the same manner i ask for a complete breakdown of costs. that way i can know what they are charging for services/profit and can be satisfied if it's fair. i really hate guessing how much the kaam in an outfit has cost me.
i mean you go to a shop in pakistan and want to have a custom made outfit and they will tell you how much they are charging for stitching, fabric and then you haggle on the price of the kaam because you know that's where their profit is coming from.
but some people just don't get it. my cousin is getting married and she's getting her stuff from here. some from shops and some from this 'designer' who charges £150 for outfits with a little bit on the neck and sleeves - the kind of stuff you see in fortress for 5000RS (which can be hugely haggled down). i'm like, girl just go to pak for 2 weeks, there will be so much variety and you can either save money or spend the same amount and get much fancier outfits. but the fact is, she hasn't been in 6 years and has no idea so she doesn't believe it.
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prototype....by itemizing everything you have told us how much effort goes in stiching a suit. i think it makes it worth the cost if customers love it. after all you are running a buisness. thankyou.
the kind of stuff you see in fortress for 5000RS (which can be hugely haggled down).
Um...fortress doesnt haggle down. :(
Um...fortress doesnt haggle down. :(
lol. you need to go shopping with different people. my aunt and cousins always buy a lot of ready made stuff from there and my cousin's husbands (who are from pak) always bargain them down, it's in their blood.
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Those, who've studied economics will know why the price for a machine embroidered fabric in lahore is far higher than a hand embroidered fabric in Multan. Just google "Supply Demand Curve" and you'll get what i am saying ;)( Also frequent load shedding = more time to produce a jora, which becomes another variable in our economics equation:)) Okay I am gonna shut up before ppl start bashing me for not reading their post properly :p, but its a point to ponder on :)
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^valid point but then care to tell us what's more expensive in regards to hand embroidery in Lahore vs Machine embroidery in Lahore? because i'd bet that hand embroidery is more expensive in any one place compared to machine embroidery in that same place - and that was my initial point.
and if anyone wants to try and convince me that sitting at a machine and guiding it to produce embroidery takes more effort and time than doing it by hand, go ahead.