Now you are trying to compare Pakistan to Soviet Union. Do you remember what happened to Soviet Union after nationalist uprising?
Centralized bureaucracy is like a death warrant for a developing country like Pakistan. My family has been in govnt service for a long time and I know that the govnt is good for nothing but making more jobs for itself.
Perhaps you should read my post again...u know comprehend it... I was talking from a purely economics perspective.... and that too for developing nations...... And it is a proven theory that command economies are able to build up themselves quicker then free economies..the best thing to do is to first have a command economy and then like China turn it into a capitalist economy.... another centralized economy was South Korea where the dictator pushed the economy in the right direction and once it developed reverted back to free economy....What happened to the Soviets needs more intellectual reasoning then just saying nationalist uprising.... it was bad policy decisions on the part of Gorbachov..and I don't have time to go into detail....
The problem with that is that with command economy you get the extra baggage of a centralized rigid political establishment, like the pone Pakistan has right now. Bhutto’s socialist nationalization policies were a disaster for Pakistan, one that we have yet to recover from.
What Pakistan needs is more freedom, not less of it. No, I am not saying there should not be good business regulation, but due to our corrupt political class, I do not trust the government to be efficient in overseeing the economy. Yes, there should be economic managements, monetary and fiscal policy like every other country, but with free enterprise, and cutting down of bureaucratic red tape, we will encourage private business and ingenuity. We are still living in the colonial times, when it comes to the function of the government. Much of the government system was setup so that the British could control everything. The British created a political bureaucratic class that was inefficient, slow and worked for their masters rather then the people. This same class remains in place today and any change for them means they have to give up some of their power, and that is why they have always put up stiff resistance to demands of smaller provinces and progressive movements.
I don’t think both political and economic wise the current centralized system is working very well. Pakistanis in their hearts are freedom loving people and they do not like intrusion of government into everything. They like to conduct their business on local level, on "mohalla" level and go about their daily lives doing hard work on their own. This is very different to our elite class who have latched onto the country and its government, trying to suck the treasury dry through ineptness and greed. These blood suckers thrive in the current system of sifarish and corruption until the system is change I don’t see them going quietly into the night.
Hmm Imdad, I am impressed, that was a well thought out reply (and without one anti Army comment as well ;))
I agree, Pakistani's are excellent innovators, but are crushed by this overbearing and generally power obsessed and useless government structure.
I think I'm not explaining my argument correctly....your argument is more political rather then economic...I too am in agreement over devoloution of powers to the lowest levels...but that will not be good in the case of economic progress....and I'm not against free enterprise either...and nationalization was absouloutely the worst thing to happen to Pakistan.... What my argument is for pooling the resources and launching mega devlopment projects...investing heavily in CApital products rather then consumer ones.... As such in the long run you have a massive expansion of the economy..... I don't know where you got the idea that I was going against "Freedom." Remember this is economic policy not political... I'm regurgitating this so that my point is crystal clear.... I'm not talking of political but economic....the system you propose commonly know as Laissez Faire...is very disruptive and it would take Pakistan atleast 60 years to actually see the effect..... whereas my system of economy...where there is government involvemetn in large projects which after they are built are then privatised.... and small business well anyone can run them...goverment shouldn't be involvoed.....
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Lost soul
Do you know that Muhajirs are also the beneficiaries of quota system? The parity between rural and urban education is so large, that the government has no choice to carry on the system to provide jobs to unprivileged class. Unless the level of education is equal at rural and urban level THE SYSTEM IS FULLY JUSTIFIED.
Farid, I would say take off your red lenses and read clearly as to what I have written.
lost soul wrote,
"Nonetheless, this issue is debateable as there is a stark difference in the educational system of the urban and rural areas and hence the youth from such areas cannot compete with that of the urban areas. Thus, they cannot be selected on merit and merit alone. "
Farid wrote,
By the way Quota System also exists in NA for brown people like you who are discriminated and deprived to get government jobs. Do you know that?
Lost soul,
Don't assume that everybody who posts here is a brown one living in US. Get your facts straight and it would be better for you if you won't jump up to conclusions.
Farid,
Aren’t you little bit embarrassed by giving example of MQM which is known as robbers and terrorists’ party whose leader is enjoying luxurious life in England with the money extracted by his goons from people of Karachi..
No, I am not embarrased. I havent comitted a sin by mentioning MQM. I just mentioned one of those many points that they blew out of prportion. Whether they were justified or not , is not the topic of discussion.