Re: Baloch ask Hindustan to break-up Pakistan
No it's not. It will never be.
Re: Baloch ask Hindustan to break-up Pakistan
Why would anyone wish this for anyone. VERY SAD INDEED. Have we not seen enough examples of what this does to people already elsewhere in the world? What makes people think like this? Are the Balochis not given the same God given rights to their lives as others? VERY VERY SAD. The problem is that all governments around the world think of a military solution - a quick option but no one takes the long road and takes the high moral ground. Balochistan is part fo Pakistan today no matter what the history was. What ever happened to the argument that all people are good people by nature. The Pakistan government should handle this issue with kid gloves unless they really do want the country to be broken.
Re: Baloch ask Hindustan to break-up Pakistan
Baluchistan is effectively the “Kurdistan of Central Asia” - the Baluchs principally live in Pakistan, Iran and Afghanistan so are divided by what they see as arbitrary borders implemented by colonial powers.
Pakistani Baluchistan occupies over 40% of Pakistan’s landmass as the largest province in the country. The Baluchi people are distinct from the Punjabi elite that dominate Pakistani politics - they are Muslims but more secular in their outlook (in a similar fashion to the Kurds) with their own distinct language and culture. The Baluchi people believe they have been oppressed in many ways by the Pakistani government. Feudal systems of government, corruption and incompetence have lead to socio-economic backwardness and extreme poverty. In addition, the army has led many incursions into the region, with the latest in 2005 coming after an assassination attempt on President Musharraf. Baluchis are desperate to be recognised as autonomous people, and to gain self-determination. They feel that Baluchistan existed as a nation, and has merely been occupied by Pakistan, a situation that the international community continues to ignore, focusing its relations with Pakistan on the war on terror, and the vexed issue of Kashmir.
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And your point by this para is? We cannot allow history to take over the future. There is a reason why things that have happened in the past are referred to as HISTORY. What’s the use of crying over SPILT MILK? Pakistan is a sovereign nation with the capabilities of addressing internal issues themselves. Balochistan is a province of Pakistan - other countries have no right to interfere. What Pakistan should do without further delay is to get rid of all the Nawabs etc and bring order to the place.
Furthermore those that claim to represent the Balochis and are in exile are cowards. They will let their own people take the c_ _ p and they will stay in their air conditioned homes wherever they are and instigate the poor there.
Re: Baloch ask Hindustan to break-up Pakistan
Nicol boy stop sipping hindu cola early in the morning, it was bad for Desai and its bad for you…
Re: Baloch ask Hindustan to break-up Pakistan
Either you are an idiot or someone pretending to be Pakistani.
Re: Baloch ask Hindustan to break-up Pakistan
Isn’t freedom a wonderful thing? Dr Towghi can say whatever he wants (and so can you) without the threat of ISI killing him. Don’t underestimate the lure of freedom among the younger generation of Balochis. They are becoming increasingly extremist in their views.
We are so focused how many sardars support the government that we have completely alienated the small but important middle class and working class of Balochistan. They almost always vote nationalist parties in and hold their Baloch martyrs who were killed by the Pakistan army in greater esteem than any leader of Pakistan movement.
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What on earth is happening, a person like kehkeshan telling others that they are pretending to be Pakistani, you are probably one of the most bitter Pakistani i have ever come across. I have never seen you saying anyhthing positive about Pakistan so why worry about others???
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It wasn't as if Baluchistan was independent before 1947 either, so lets not talk about who opted for Pakistan and who didn't.
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For your second point, I don’t know what kind of autonomy, but I’m sure we can find out if we listen to the popular Baloch parties. As for independence, most of the parties are not as king for that, and it does not matter what kind of state they will if independent. Freedom is a concept that goes far beyond economic incentives. If they fail as an independent or even an autonomous state, the blame will lie on them, not anyone else. The problem is that so far they haven’t been given a chance to succeed or fail on their own.
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Did Pakistani government oppose an idea like establishing 1000 schools, 300 colleges proposed by Baluchis? I don't recall if Baluchis demanded some infrastructre and Pakistani government refused it, I think it was otherwise infact, so more blame goes to Baluch leadership than our government. Current Baluchistan system is not complete enough to ask for an independence, its not as if there 100,000 Baluchi graduates waiting for jobs, or 1000 Baluchi entrepreneurs being denied of any business opportunity. All Baluch leadership is asking for is their personal share in the gas/coals from Baluchistan which they will very likely use to further oppress the common people under them.
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These are the sort of people whom we label 'anti-pakistani', and PPP chummies like the_real_deal etc start complaining.
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Freedom of speech my foot.
I'll see how much PHAREE-DOM-DOM he got in Washington DC if this Balochi guy ever makes the same statement against USA.
Oh Bhai freedomi, no country allows its residents to make such statements. Anyone even remotely looking or talking like Zaya-hiri (wasted) zawahiri would be picked up by FBI and sent to the Gitmo hotel.
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I’m glad you find the idea of ethnic cleansing of Balochis funny. You along with Pakistani Dragon share the same mentality of the army officers who massacred Bengalis in 71. Good on you for representing your “wonderful image” of Pakistan to the world while Quaid’s Pakistan dies just a little bit more everyday.
Something must be indeed wrong with me for being bitter about the deaths of fellow countrymen. Whether FC soldiers or Balochi people.
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No of course not. They were a princely state with some sovereign powers which they lost under Pakistan. So for them, Pakistan has been a lose-lose situation.
Balochistan government is like any other provincial government, except that they have very little money and are in constant debt despite the abundance of natural resources in the province. That should tell you immediately that something is not right with the political setup. Balochis have asked for rights to do as the please with the money they generate from their land. I said this before and I will say this again, if they use this money to build 1,000 schools or 1 gold statue of Bugti, is the responsibility of the people of Balochistan and the leaders they elect. Islamabad doesn’t need to be acting as Balochistan’s (or Punjab’s, or Sindh’s etc.) grandfather to decide every decision for them. They are adults and should be allowed to develop on their own. For 60 years we have already seen that Islamabad’s tight control over the provinces has not achieved any great result. It is time to change the system and try something new and something that will hep remove the misgivings of the minority ethnicities.
People keep assuming that I somehow favour Balochi independence just because I favour their right to self-determination. I don’t want Pakistan to break up and that is precisely why I keep bringing up the issue of Balochi alienation within the Pakistani state. No amount of money, development projects, or military operations will ultimately solve the issue of political, economic control and balance of power between provincial and federal governments which is the core of the problem. Let’s say Musharaf is out of the picture tomorrow, there will be zero guarantees that Balochistan gets the money it was promised. If, however, Balochistan retained the revenue from the gas fields, it would have a constant supply of money to do with it as they please. That doesn’t mean they would turn into paradise, but just that they would have financial power. And by “they” I again mean, the elected government, not any particular sardar. I am 100% against giving royalties to any sardar, be it favoured son Jamali or rebel Bugti.
To condense it all down, the choices we are faced with:
A) Force projects on Balochistan that we think are good for them
B) Let a FREELY ELECTED Balochistan government retain money it earns and then develop projects it thinks are good for them through consensus.
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Do anyone notice this in the link
http://governmentofbalochistan.blogspot.com
according to the author the train explosion occured in punjab and not in Mumbai (look at the map and you will know it )
you will find how intelligent is the author 
India has lot of issues other then breaking up pakistan
Re: Balochis ask Hindustan to break-up Pakistan
You could have fooled us bro!