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*Originally posted by Chuck de Phatté: *
haha khalif munnay, I knew you guys will try and compare it something bad elsewhere. you got nuthing better to do :) now read the title of this thread and address the gujrat massacres, terrorism, nationalism in india. if you cant, then shaddup urself :D
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pakistani view is irrelvant and only provoke negativism.
it is not india-pakistan issue.
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*Originally posted by Malik73: *
This coming from the person who until a few months ago was claiming that the BJP-RSS was on the decline, and would lose elections. After the genocide in Gujrat you predicted that the Modi and co would lose, but lo and behold they came back with a bigger majority than ever before. Everybody knows why, don't we? And everyone knows what the BJP-RSS has stood for at least since Ayodhya, and every voter knows that when they cast their vote.
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do yoiu think if economy is down people will vote? even bad monsoon
have impact on elections. you have accept vajpayee is control and responsible for what is happening in their repective countries eventhough any individual ay disagree with them.
Well stated Chuck. The world must never be allowed to forget what occurred in Gujrat, where Hinduvta fanatics carried out the biggest acts of terrorism since 9/11.
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*Originally posted by Toddytapper: *
AK 47, the fact that the BJP has changed track was a pleasant surprise...
Dude, I am waiting for your answer. What help could have been given? You raised the issue now give the answer, or is it that it was just a lot of hot air?
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BJP changed really what was that saying about "a leopard never changing its spots"!
I raised issue that secularism is a disaster look what it has done within India. It cannot solve the problem between people who happen to be different in colour, religion, from certain area,age, sex etc!
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*Originally posted by Malik73: *
Well stated Chuck. The world must never be allowed to forget what occurred in Gujrat, where Hinduvta fanatics carried out the biggest acts of terrorism since 9/11.
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gujarat is fighting between two communties and these type
of clashes cocurs all parts of the world happens in liberia to lebanon
some you tie this to pre-meditated attack on a country after gaining
enterance to the country as students/guests is rediculous.
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*Originally posted by ak47: *
BJP changed really what was that saying about "a leopard never changing its spots"!
I raised issue that secularism is a disaster look what it has done within India. It cannot solve the problem between people who happen to be different in colour, religion, from certain area,age, sex etc!
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And if India is not secular what will that 20% minority be here, for that matter I wouldnt be typing this post......
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*Originally posted by ak47: *
I raised issue that secularism is a disaster look what it has done within India. It cannot solve the problem between people who happen to be different in colour, religion, from certain area,age, sex etc!
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You've fallen into your own trap. If secularism is a disaster then we have 2 choices -
Total Hindutva
Martial rule
We have only to look around, and not very far, if you're living near the Wagah, to see what failed states controlled by military and religion look like!
what trap you have a weak argument you admiting secularism is rubbish so you have no alternative is that what you saying!
As for militray dicatorships nobody wants that!
As for options you forgot 3rd option islamic ruling system
Britain left india as a secualr state and look at it minorities now always looking over there shoulders not knowing when their so called hindu buddy or neighbour is going to be smiling at them one day and stabbing them the next!
^ You have some hope of me admitting that secularism is a failure! I did not say that so stop making a bigger fool of yourself by making up stories.
As for Islamic rule - how do you propose to sell that to a populace that is 80% non muslim? Why don't you adopt HIndutva in Pakistan? Why don't you stop posting in WA if you don't have a clue about WA?
Mods pls close this thread if this is the kind of half baked arguments the opener comes up with!!
hinduvata is not a system is it!
If it is then provide me with its system structure then we have a debate otherwise you admited secualrism is failue we have other options you said by default you acknowledge that secualrism is a failure!
And if you dont want to admit that then i will say this which i have said many times you cannot protect your minorities how clear do you want it spelt out to you!
I will say it again in bold in case you did'nt get it the first time:
Secualrism cannot protect its minorities and the riots and masscres in India in just last few years is proof of that!
**neither can Islam protect it’s minorities which are shias and ahmedis and hindus **
I would like to request Mod to not erase my msg as it is a valid answer to AK47’s question/accusation. It is not fair that he gets to post ridiculous assumptions and I can’t even reply to them in a manner I see fit, in all politeness. I truly feel Islamic rule cannot protect it’s minorities.
Oh and AK47 - this conversation is over. You have lost the argument many times over. 
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*Originally posted by ak47: *
hinduvata is not a system is it!
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Nepal is a hindu kingdom/country. Study it.
So Mr. AK47, you want khalifah system in India too?
//As for options you forgot 3rd option islamic ruling system//
I just cant stop laughing....
Name one country that has successfully implemented islamic ruling system and lived to tell the tale..
Dont talk about khilafah and all that stuff...
The closest maybe was afghanistan and boy do I want that...