Ayodhya riots!

When people are being butchered and harrased it duty for the muslims in the local area and worldwide to help there brothers in trouble be it financialy, militarily or politically!

Warning - Stick to the topic of this thread, or your posts will be removed.

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When people are being butchered and harrased it duty for the muslims in the local area and worldwide to help there brothers in trouble be it financialy, militarily or politically!
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What if they dont want the help?

Well for majority of cases I don't think people in trouble will refuse offer of help. Especially when it is life and death matters.

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Well for majority of cases I don't think people in trouble will refuse offer of help. Especially when it is life and death matters.
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What help could have been given? Please elaborate?

why dont you let indian muslim voice be heard

Rasheed Ahmed, Vice-President of IMC-USA, said, “Indian Muslims and IMC-USA will always support any effort that strengthens India’s secularism. Campaigns like this are the only way for the silent majority to express their displeasure at sectarian violence and the politics of hate. We at IMC-USA are eager to build an India that is secular, democratic and prosperous, and where every citizen is treated with dignity and respect, irrespective of caste, creed or religion”.
http://www.imc-usa.org/cgi-bin/cfm/PressRelease.cfm?PRID=66

Anyone can have there view as long as its sensible, its not a problem

Just i don't agree that Secularism is answer it is a failure, for the crazy right wing BJP to get into power in first place is clear example of secularism's failings. And if the gujerat and other atrocities are not a big enough reminder for this IMC chap than i don't know what is.

The bigger failure is any theocracy ever set up. People who think that religious right gov't who come to power in a democracy on the basis of racial and ethnic or sectarian platforms quickly lose that appeal to stay in business because all of a sudden they have to compromise to execute their promises.

The result is the unbelieveable growth and improvements in the lives of people over a long term, which secular and democratic institutions provide. Theocracies feed them reliogious non sense not food.

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Anyone can have there view as long as its sensible, its not a problem

Just i don't agree that Secularism is answer it is a failure, for the crazy right wing BJP to get into power in first place is clear example of secularism's failings. And if the gujerat and other atrocities are not a big enough reminder for this IMC chap than i don't know what is.
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AK47, the facts are up there if you want to see it.

The BJP fought this election on issues of development. In your hurry to critisise dont be blind.

There is hope yet....

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Well for majority of cases I don't think people in trouble will refuse offer of help. Especially when it is life and death matters.
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AK 47

Dude, I am waiting for your answer. What help could have been given? You raised the issue now give the answer, or is it that it was just a lot of hot air?

BJP fought on issues of development thats funny i am sure they where created under the banner of radical right wing hinduism!

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The BJP fought this election on issues of development.
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Yes, sure just like Hitler Modi did.

mallik your one man propaganda is not working .

In recent state elections, the Hindu-nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) made significant gains on a platform that exposed good governance and development.

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BJP fought on issues of development thats funny i am sure they where created under the banner of radical right wing hinduism!
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AK 47, the fact that the BJP has changed track was a pleasant surprise...

Hopefully it will last, and that brings me to another point...

If you werent aware of this, then I assume you havent been keeping track of Indian politicks, but then where do you get all your information when you make those "India is a terrorist state" accusations?

AK 47

Dude, I am waiting for your answer. What help could have been given? You raised the issue now give the answer, or is it that it was just a lot of hot air?

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mallik your one man propaganda is not working .

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This coming from the person who until a few months ago was claiming that the BJP-RSS was on the decline, and would lose elections. After the genocide in Gujrat you predicted that the Modi and co would lose, but lo and behold they came back with a bigger majority than ever before. Everybody knows why, don't we? And everyone knows what the BJP-RSS has stood for at least since Ayodhya, and every voter knows that when they cast their vote.

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Yes, sure just like Hitler Modi did.
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Malik Bhai

Hitler Modi did some really nasty things to my countrymen, and he should pay for it, but that is on another track....

Now tell me exactly why, using those strange things..facts and figures based on this election as to why you believe the BJP did not campaign on issues of development.

I am so onto your game now its not funny. Now either answer this or ignore my questions on your sources and facts and show everyone that your posts have absolutely no credibility. But in this case Post a disclaimer stating that your posts are largely your own opinion and are not based on fact...

The reason Rvikz said that the BJP may lose was becase Hindutva and Ram Mandir was losing popular support....Hence the development plank.

What is so difficult for you to understand?
India is a big countyr with many issues, a lot of them difficult ones....

Can you see beyond Gujarat?

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Malik Bhai

Hitler Modi did some really nasty things to my countrymen, and he should pay for it, but that is on another track....

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When your Prime Minister holds this guy up as a model for all India, and issues praises to him then there is no hope for this.

Gujrat will never be forgotten. It was the biggest act of terrorism since 9/11, and that sort of the thing will never be forgotten, as much as you would like.

Its sad that around the world especially in western countries not much media coverage or attention was paid to the massacres in gujrat. while the world was busy with threats from al-qaeda etc, another form of terrorism was taking place in gujrat. :nook:

gujarat- if u cannot forget it thats with u. india is not a single event country. had that been the case then hou comwe muslims r here in the first place. they would have been driven out during partition itself. none wants that here i suppose.
so move on to something productive.
if u cannt jus shut up

haha khalif munnay, I knew you guys will try and compare it something bad elsewhere. you got nuthing better to do :) now read the title of this thread and address the gujrat massacres, terrorism, nationalism in india. if you cant, then shaddup urself :D