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I had respect for Murad Saeed as an young, energetic & intelligent person. If these allegations (no proof yet) are true than he is nothing more than another political idiot. As for Arsalan Iftikhar he has not been convicted of any crime & has every right to work anywhere he likes.
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Dr Arsalan to file Article 62 petition against Imran Khan - thenews.com.pk
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I had respect for Murad Saeed as an young, energetic & intelligent person. If these allegations (no proof yet) are true than he is nothing more than another political idiot. As for Arsalan Iftikhar he has not been convicted of any crime & has every right to work anywhere he likes.
being son of former CJ, do you see him getting convicted any time soon? Most of the current Judges have struggled with Iftikhar Ch for getting him reinstated.
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Someone call AP uncle please for expertise… :hehe:
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So it is real...PTI Turning into another MQM or even worst...
PTI leader and it's follower believe that no body but only they can accuse anyone at any time and then without any proof they can also issue the sentence because no one is as good as they are...that is why they wish death and hanging to everyone who so far has not joined PTI...
No wonder they are most vocal advocate of anarchy and unrest in the country...or let me put it this way, tsunami only brings destruction...and that is what they are promising...
A guy beaten on TV because he said something to the established liar and u turn specialist and his jiyala went violent...what would these people do In real world? Kill people? I don't think that level is too far...
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^^^ In Pakistan, if you cannot defend yourself than you can get shot, even police can shoot innocent men, women and children just to make thugs in power happy. Court can convict and could even give death sentence to make thugs in power happy. Rangers can kill political opponents of people in power just to make them happy.
In such environment, one can only feel pity on parties (like PAT) who do not only say but desire peaceful existence ... and talk about peaceful revolution (they should know that revolution in countries like Pakistan, where people like Gullu Shareef hold power, can only come through barrel of a gun). In such country only bullet speaks and not ballot, as ballot means nothing .... because people do not get elected through votes (but ... patching punctures).
If PTI would become like PAT, and Imran Khan would talk about peaceful protest like TUQ (jahan patta bhie nahi tootay) than time is not far when police would invade his residence in Bani Gala and would shoot down Imran Khan in cold blood, and PTI would be left on to cry, as no police station would even file FIR nor any court would be there to help, rather, those who would raise voice would get killed too ... as terrorists (and present new law against terrorist, brought by PMLN, would help).
Only way PTI could survive is not only by promise to hang thugs in police and judge uniform obeying order of their political pay-masters to punish or kill opponents of their political pay-master ... but should be willing to fight for their rights and words, whenever needed ... and also revenge themselves with promise to hang all political masters involved in ordering the killing of their political opponents, using state organs.
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What crooks that father-son duo is.
Now everyone sees their truly ugly faces. But earlier everyone used to call Iftikhar 'symbol of democracy and law' and what not.
Musharraf knew very well what kind of shoddy character Iftikhar was. He knew his connections with aale Sharif Talibanis. He did the right thing by trying to stop this Nawazia to become CJ. But at that time all Pakistanis were looking for any opportunity to throw dirt on Musharraf. So they supported this corrupt extremist ally just because they were looking to support anyone against Musharraf.
It is now known that this father-son duo is corrupt to the core. Only subjects of aale Sharif Saudis are now left to support them.
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The appointment of Arsalaan Iftikhar was criticised by the media, civil society and all opposition parties. In fact the final push was provided in the Balochistan Assembly where PTI has no influence whatsoever, yet it's Imran who faces the wrath of Noonie Cult. Just shows what huge political force Imran's turning out to be - he's unavoidable and simply unstoppable. The people who moans the most about him cannot resist talking about him and giving him all the credit.
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The appointment of Arsalaan Iftikhar was criticised by the media, civil society and all opposition parties. In fact the final push was provided in the Balochistan Assembly where PTI has no influence whatsoever, yet it's Imran who faces the wrath of Noonie Cult. Just shows what huge political force Imran's turning out to be - he's unavoidable and simply unstoppable. The people who moans the most about him cannot resist talking about him and giving him all the credit.
Seems some people are fearing that what they do (use state organs to persecute and kill), time might not be far that they may start tasting same medicine, and would have no place to hide.
Though saying that, I feel PTI is too gentle that they may stoop as low as PMLN or to extend PPP in using state organs to persecute and kill political opponents ... spread nepotism as shamelessly as these two parties, and loot the country as brutally as them, but time would tell.
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The appointment of Arsalaan Iftikhar was criticised by the media, civil society and all opposition parties. In fact the final push was provided in the Balochistan Assembly where PTI has no influence whatsoever, yet it's Imran who faces the wrath of Noonie Cult. Just shows what huge political force Imran's turning out to be - he's unavoidable and simply unstoppable. The people who moans the most about him cannot resist talking about him and giving him all the credit.
In case you have missed it, PTI like an attention grabbing clown again went for a flying arrow which was not on aimed at it... Murad Saeed violent act cannot be justified...but I know the cult who believe in hanging everyone going against them would come out with justification and glorification of mural Saeed's act...
Anyway, what's the news on Geo boy-cott stand? By PTI and IK unless Geo ask for forgiveness from IK
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he didn’t slap, it was heated argument, but social media :smack:
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The video show him pushing and then there nothing on air but speculation....same what IK make about other and rest of the cult believe it like it is their faith
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^ absar alam who is linked to pml n himself saying no slap, he asked him to apologize, like all noon league arsalan was doing the same instead of defending argument sensibly attacking ik's personal life. when you don't have solid argument you do this. it was wrong on behalf of arsalan to brink ik's personal life into discussion talk about moral values, manners.
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It was hardly a slap! More like a unnecessary tapping on the shoulder in retaliation to Arsalan's comments, honestly any loyal servant/paty worker would do that if his leader is insulted because that is the measure by which they climb the party ladder in Pakistan. If it was really a 'slap' then it would have turned really ugly and the other guy would have fought back. I dont know why this has become such a big deal.
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arsalan himself told in express new program takrar k koi slap nhi tha hum ne bhi choriyan nhi pheni hui , aur mei ne FIR darj kr deni thi, I don't know why social media exaggerated the whole thing
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Calling someone corrupt is getting personal as well. Anyway, the playboy thing is old and imran should man up about it considering that there are skeletons in the closet. It reminds me of republicans here with there anti-gay stand when some get caught getting serviced in bathrooms and offices by the same lot.
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Calling someone corrupt is getting personal as well. Anyway, the playboy thing is old and imran should man up about it considering that there are skeletons in the closet. It reminds me of republicans here with there anti-gay stand when some get caught getting serviced in bathrooms and offices by the same lot.
Funny thing is that it is Imran actually who doesn't give a crap about all this. His usual response has has always been this line that "I never said I was farishta in my cricketing days". Likes of JUI and MQM have all tried this filthy mudslinging campaign and Mullah tactics against him when he was a political nobody and definitely a lot more vulnerable. It clearly didn't work then, it certainly won't ever work again. Imran has come a long way and his voters and sympathisers have accepted him with his past. So much for Mullahfication of Pakistan under Zia, sometimes I really wonder if it was really that bad considering Immy got away with being a Casanova under such regime. Did Zia ever declared Immy a heretic like wannabe liberals do today in 2014?
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Wow you were really angry when you wrote the first reply.. :D
Ok, lets cool down. I know that you have a crush on imran and PTI, but lets look at things logically.
First of all, you hate liberals yet you don't live in afghanistan, somalia or EVEN Pakistan but in UK, one of the most nanga panga and bay rah roo mulk. Before that, when did JUI and PLM-n, who were doing character assassination of IK since 1996 became liberals? MQM came much later than that and they can say that you insulted their leader as well... ;)
Secondly, i didn't see murad saeed interrupting arsalan iftikhar and saying that 'No, my leader didn't say that (the accusations', so I assume that imran in his josh jalsa did say that. Calling someone corrupt, thug or even shehzada (in a wrong way..) can be construed as a personal insult as well. He used to tell nawaz kee phaintee lagee before election, so it is very much possible that he did it here as well. That is perhaps pakistani politicis but he should be man enough to admit that he has a shortcoming with Tyrian. I don't know the status now but imran did try to deny that she even existed in the first place. I'd rather have honesty than fake piousness.
Thirdly, imran wants to be liberal or portray himself as one in western media, but he has a soft corner for taliban. He used to cry on TV that they don't allow him in karachi (MQM had used some safety exception) but he has no problem with the fact that the taliban were allowed to take over FATA and that even army should not be allowed there when, unlike karachi, FATA is an international porous border and we know that afghans have designs on that area. I still remember his interviews where he was so excited about sharia in SWAT and how "liberal fascists" hate Pakistan and islam all that but he was forced to admit that SWAT needed an operation later but waziristan followed different rules compared to Swat? If he likes these people so much, then he should remember that under their sharia law, nothing is 'forgiven' per se and he would need to be sangsaar or something else for his "crimes". I admit that I am not 100% sure on the exact punishment but there would be some reckoning when it comes to islam. If you want to taken seriously, heck not even a liberal, then chehk chehk kay na bolo talibani ki shariat ko islami shariat.
PS I do like reading many of your posts ,but please go back and see that you look like Saleema here with your emotional defense of imran khan. This childish attitude like MQM that someone called imran playboy, when there is evidence of it in the past, so you hit the other guy makes "niralas" no better than altafians or jiyalas.
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Wow you were really angry when you wrote the first reply.. :D
Ok, lets cool down. I know that you have a crush on imran and PTI, but lets look at things logically.
First of all, you hate liberals yet you don't live in afghanistan, somalia or EVEN Pakistan but in UK, one of the most nanga panga and bay rah roo mulk. Before that, when did JUI and PLM-n, who were doing character assassination of IK since 1996 became liberals? MQM came much later than that and they can say that you insulted their leader as well... ;)
Secondly, i didn't see murad saeed interrupting arsalan iftikhar and saying that 'No, my leader didn't say that (the accusations', so I assume that imran in his josh jalsa did say that. Calling someone corrupt, thug or even shehzada (in a wrong way..) can be construed as a personal insult as well. He used to tell nawaz kee phaintee lagee before election, so it is very much possible that he did it here as well. That is perhaps pakistani politicis but he should be man enough to admit that he has a shortcoming with Tyrian. I don't know the status now but imran did try to deny that she even existed in the first place. I'd rather have honesty than fake piousness.
Thirdly, imran wants to be liberal or portray himself as one in western media, but he has a soft corner for taliban. He used to cry on TV that they don't allow him in karachi (MQM had used some safety exception) but he has no problem with the fact that the taliban were allowed to take over FATA and that even army should not be allowed there when, unlike karachi, FATA is an international porous border and we know that afghans have designs on that area. I still remember his interviews where he was so excited about sharia in SWAT and how "liberal fascists" hate Pakistan and islam all that but he was forced to admit that SWAT needed an operation later even though waziristan followed different rules compared to Swat. If he likes these people so much, then he should remember that under their sharia law, nothing is 'forgiven' per se and he would need to be sangsaar or something else for his "crimes". I admit that I am not 100% sure on the exact punishment but there would be some reckoning when it comes to islam. If you want to taken seriously, heck not even a liberal, then chehk chehk kay na bolo talibani ki shariat ko islami shariat.
PS I do like reading many of your posts ,but please go back and see that you look like Saleema here with your emotional defense of imran khan. This childish attitude like MQM that someone called imran playboy, when there is evidence of it in the past, so you hit the other guy makes "niralas" no better than altafians or jiyalas.
Crush on Imran, lol. He's actually even older than my father in age, but I'm definitely inspired by his dedication and sincerity and the strength of character since a very very young age, and I have no qualms about admitting that. Whether it makes me look like a Jiyala, Nirala, I don't give a flying funk. That's for others to cry about. I know where I stand. Even likes of you know that there's an earth and sky difference between Imran, Altaf, Bhuttos and Sharif brothers, but somehow it's becoming a fashionable fad to mindlessly lump them all together.
And I "hate" liberals. Excuse me? Where on earth did you get that, I'd like to know. There was a certain irony in that post that you obviously failed to detect. As you rightly pointed out that I'm a product of perhaps the most Godless and liberal countries in the world, I can tell that likes of of JUI, PMLN, MQM are nothing but a horrid insult on liberalism. Thankfully, Imran doesn't feel the need to brand himself as one. But from whatever little politics I have studied, I can pretty much conclude that his polices (barring the War of course) are perhaps more in synch with the political concepts of liberalism than any other parties'. Now I don't know whether my next point has any bearing on the discussion we're having now, but I must confess that I genuinely find it absolutely sickening how Muslims have purposely reduced Islam to women, zinna and beard, if not that, then as we all know through the eyes of the world that Islam is all about violence and use of force. Even I as a Muslim find such practices and ideas absolutely repulsive.
You are wrong to compare public corruption with strictly personal failing. Corruption directly effects millions of Pakistanis, whereas how Tyrian possibly effects the lives of average Pakistanis, in any way, is beyond me. I really like to believe that personal life is indeed personal life (it is for that reason I don't give a hoot about how many wives SS currently have). If Pakistani men (yes I do find that Pakistani are men far more obsessed and upset over sexuality of other men as oppose to women) are so bothered about launching any sexually motivated witch hunt then let's start off with snooping on all Pakistanis politicians who had or are having multiple extra marital affairs, arrange adult entertainment at house parties, visit brothels, indulge in binge drinking etc, and then talk about Islam. Once you actually consider the lavish and lewd lifestyles of Pakistani politicians, Immy looks like a monk in comparison. Unfortunately, his only crime was that he was a Western media's darling during his cricketing years, more than the Pakistani media, it was them who glamourised and documented every bit of his stardom.
Anyway, I don't know but I think you've confused me with the Pathan boy in the video (bless him, he really can't fight). He was wrong to react. Forget about any physical conduct, he shouldn't have reacted at all in any way, not even verbally. This word 'Playboy' really doesn't mean a thing anymore. Imran has come a massively long way to be effected by any of that crap anymore. And as far as my opinions are concerned, evem I don't find Imran being called a playboy offensive, maybe it's got something to with the general laid back culture of the country of my birth. But really, Imran probably was whatever you say he was. If he doesn't deny his past, why should I bother get offended? However, I often do find the casual firing of the word quite off topic and in general, see it as a very stale, old, tired desperate and powerless comeback. Other than that what else can I say, that guy managed to survive Zia's Mullahcracy, wrath of "liberals" from PMLN, JUI, MQM, now the only way I can see him getting flogged to death according to oh so Islamic punishment is either he moves to Saudi Arabia or we have Taliban shariah in the country. Clearly even the deeply conservative and strictly tribal population of KPK doesn't mind the skeletons in his closet, so who are we really appealing to here?
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Lol @ mentality of some people. If you support a person who is honest, sincere, hard-working, successful, believes in justice, promotes education, is a philanthropist and happens to be good looking then the support is only because he was once good looking, surely makes a lot of sense.