Are women allowed to visit graves?

[Captain1]

Re: Are women allowed to visit graves?

@Seminole

Then how do you explain the life long Muslims who can’t agree on this simple subject?

But shoudn’t one question sources since there are thousands of hadith and many have been proven false? Since Muslims believe the Quran to be word of God, I don’t see how you could doubt God exists. But we are talking about the words of mere mortals here that are putting a lot of what was cultural of the time or not important enough for God to put in his FINAL book, but yet dictate how a person lives his/her life as per God’s wishes.

Definitely one can “question”, but many a times when one finds few ahadith which are not correct (whether in absoluteness or “per his/her thought/bias”) one tends to reject it altogether… thats what I find questionable.

[picoico]

Re: Are women allowed to visit graves?

@Seminole

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

Everything.

That’s quite a strech to find that anyway related to the subject of not allong women to visit their family’s gravesites.

You weren’t strictly talking about women visting their family in gravesites…you questioned what sort of society would have women not visit graves …hardly a critique against a single practice. Now, if you want to stick to the issue at hand, be my guess…however it was you who had expanded the discussion beyond women in graves to society and what they do and do not allow in grave sites.

[Seminole]

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@picoico

You weren’t strictly talking about women visting their family in gravesites…you questioned what sort of society would have women not visit graves …hardly a critique against a single practice. Now, if you want to stick to the issue at hand, be my guess…however it was you who had expanded the discussion beyond women in graves to society and what they do and do not allow in grave sites.

Ok, let me re-phrase - what kind of religion?. I was trying to give the benefit of the doubt that the most perfect religion would not be so imperfect as to bar women from gravesites.

[Seminole]

Re: Are women allowed to visit graves?

@Captain1

Definitely one can “question”, but many a times when one finds few ahadith which are not correct (whether in absoluteness or “per his/her thought/bias”) one tends to reject it altogether… thats what I find questionable.

So how do you limit your questions? Based on other people’s interpretations? It would seem if you follow certain guidelines as if they are God’s decree, you would want to make sure you are following His religion and not a man-made religion.

[Lajawab]

Re: Are women allowed to visit graves?

Women are not allowed in graveyards...

[Lajawab]

Re: Are women allowed to visit graves?

@Seminole

Then how do you explain the life long Muslims who can’t agree on this simple subject?

But shoudn’t one question sources since there are thousands of hadith and** many have been proven false?** Since Muslims believe the Quran to be word of God, I don’t see how you could doubt God exists. But we are talking about the words of mere mortals here that are putting a lot of what was cultural of the time or not important enough for God to put in his FINAL book, but yet dictate how a person lives his/her life as per God’s wishes.

Like which ones? Can you backup your claim with an example?

[cat-woman]

Re: Are women allowed to visit graves?

women arent allowed to visit graveyards? that must be the stupidest thing ive heard! ive seen muslim sunni women going to graveyards. n my chacha in pakistan took us kids to our grandparents grave in lahore.

[cat-woman]

Re: Are women allowed to visit graves?

you people need to stop spreading untruths

[cat-woman]

Re: Are women allowed to visit graves?

**Women visiting graves:

In order to reduce the inclination towards worldly desires and to reflect on the Hereafter women can visit the graves sometimes, provided they exercise patience and self-control and avoid getting emotional and flamenting.

Hazrat Anas (RAA) related that the Prophet(SAW) saw a woman crying at the grave and said: " Fear Allah and be patient." (Sahih Bukhari)

Evidence of women being permitted to visit graves is found in the narration of Hazrat Abdullah Bin Abi Malkia (RAA): " Once Hazrat A’isha returned after visiting the graveyard.

I asked "0 Mother of Believers, ‘Where have you been?’ She said: ‘I went to visit the grave of my brother Abd Ar-Rahman.’ I asked her: ’ Didn’t the Messenger of Allah (SAW) prohibit visiting graves?’ She said: ‘Yes, he did forbid visiting graves during the early days but later on he ordered us to visit them.’ " (Sunan Ibn Majah).

{{In another narration, Hazrat A’isha is reported to have said: " The Prophet (SAW) had given permission to visit graves.’ (Sunan Bayhaqi)}}

Source of Admonition:

In the early days of Islam, the practices of the Days of Ignorance were still strongly prevalent and when visiting graveyards, women would wail, lament, tear at their hair and clothing, beat their chests, and indulge in all kinds of prohibited practices associated with innovation in religion. It is for this reason that in the beginning, there was a total prohibition on their visiting graves. Later on, when people had disciplined themselves according to the Islamic injunctions, this ban was lifted to some extent, so that visiting graves would serve as an admonition. Although supplications for the deceased and asking for his forgiveness can be done anywhere, remembrance of the Hereafter is easier when visiting a cemetery In a hadith, the Prophet (SAW) is reported to have said:

" I forbade you to visit graves, but you may now visit them for they produce abstinence in this world and act as a reminder of the next." (Sunan Ibn Majah) ncA-Mu-sl-im**

http://www.islamabad.net/graveyard/visitgrave.htm

**
However, many of the scholars are of the opinion that the above law has been
obliterated by the following narration recorded by Imaam Muslim in his Sahih
on the authority of Sayyiduna Abdullah ibn Mas’ood (Radhiallaahu Anhu) that
Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) mentioned, ‘I had prevented you
from visiting the grave, (as of now) you all should visit it for it reminds
one of the Aakhirat.’ (Sahih Muslim)
**

http://www.islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=5469

[cat-woman]

Re: Are women allowed to visit graves?

women dont attend the actual jannaza (burial), but can visit graves.

[picoico]

Re: Are women allowed to visit graves?

@Seminole

Ok, let me re-phrase - what kind of religion?.

…same difference…

[Ma_Mooli]

Re: Are women allowed to visit graves?

yes they can...

is there a reason why they shouldnt?

[funguy]

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If women can't go to graveyards, where do they get burried when they die? JC Penney's?

[Blitzkrieg]

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@funguy

If women can’t go to graveyards, where do they get burried when they die? JC Penney’s?

Wouldn’t they be dead then???

[Sara516]

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I never knew women weren't allowed to go to graveyards.... :(

[Captain1]

Re: Are women allowed to visit graves?

@funguy

If women can’t go to graveyards, where do they get burried when they die? JC Penney’s?

They are talking about “visiting” … when you are dead, you don’t “visit” graveyard.

[Captain1]

Re: Are women allowed to visit graves?

@Seminole

So how do you limit your questions? Based on other people’s interpretations? It would seem if you follow certain guidelines as if they are God’s decree, you would want to make sure you are following His religion and not a man-made religion.

I’ve my own “limits” but unable to put them down in words properly . For example I don’t pay attention to ahadith which “praised” any particular group, person while missing out other, they seemed more of ‘delibrate’, ‘made’ up, hadith that are against Quran etc. etc. … some of the “limits” are also borrowed/shared from other’s opinions.

[shweetdreamz]

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@cat-woman

women dont attend the actual jannaza (burial), but can visit graves.

why not?