Arab-Iran Conflict

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Well I used to think the Iranians but this article is talking about sunni fundamentalists (which later became Alqaeda), and there could be a relation between this incidence and the resulting jehad in Afghanistan. Yes I have heard about Pakistani commandos taking part in that too but am not too sure, it seems Saudis tried to censor the incidence.

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So the Jehad started by breaking the sharia rule about the Hurmat of Kabaa and surrounding. :hmmm: Charity began at home. Thats why we see there is no respect of religious places including Masajids, when it comes to terrorist attacks.

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you are right maybe thats why the followers dont resist in attacking their opponents in mosques.

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yes i heard that they filled mosque with water and electrocuted some rebels...........................
and there was some news about french commandos accepting islam before entering haram sharif

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We should also not forget Saudi govt's action of demolishing various religious places in Makkah and Medina specially the graves of many Sahaba & Umhat ul Momineen, just on one point agenda of shirk. When these graves were not creating shirk for more than 1300 years, how come suddenly they became source of shirk in Saudi rule. Such actions on one hand created hatred amongst those who revere such places and on other hand promoted culture of direspecting other religious places. I think there was also an attempt to demolish Roza e Hussain (RA) in Iraq.

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and calling it shirk they declare all muslims before passed before them as mushrik…:aj:

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I heard one scholar called for demolition of gumbad e khizra …:aj:

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Saudi rule is very rigid and shows intolerance towards those Muslims who don't follow their version of Islam. To suppress other sects they can even go to work on the agenda of Non Muslims. On one hand they are taking shirk issue so rigidly and when it comes to Hurmat of Harmen Shareef, they allowed Non- Muslims Military bases there.

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Well rigidity of KSA laws are well known, but post revolutionary Iranian government has always been very obstinate as well, Even though Iran's relation with India improved greatly:)
pre-revloutionary Iran sided with Pakistan during Indo-pak war of 1971 along with Jordan and Syria, if I am right:). How the revolution in Iran has changed relationship between Iran and Pakistan??

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I think after Irani revolution in 1979, Zia regime remained tilted towards Saudi rulers and those Saudi rulers sponsored not only militants in Afghanistan Jihad, but supported many religious bodies here in Pakistan to promote Saudi version of Islam. This Saudi version get acceptability in parts of Punjab & NWFP, but Sindh todate remained under Sufi influence. A few days ago, I was reading William Dalrymple's 'Nine Lives' where the tussle between Sufi Muslims and rigid / orthodox Muslims of Sehwan Sharif (where famous saint Qalandar Shahbaz's mazar situated) is discussed in detail. Nawaz regime also tilted towards Saudi rulers which has now converted to family relationship.

Overall the rulers remained tilted towards Saudi Arab, but there is no open confrontation between Iran and Pakistan at any stage.

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I think in the Iran Iraq war both countries were suspicious of Pakistan. The relation has remained normal if not very good, but was damaged some what after the rise of taleban in afghanistan and the genocide of Shias there, the Iranian embassy was also I guess attacked. Basically after the taleban the relations between the two countries nose dived. Other than that in 1990s both Saudia and Iran have been playing havoc with Pakistanis by supporting sectarian groups there.

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Though "pakistani brothers" were deployed in syria as muslim courtesy in 73, I don't think the syrians ever militarily helped Pakistan. Saudis are rumored to have sent some F-5s in 1971, but Jordan officially sent some F-104s to be piloted by Pakistani pilots though half of them were destroyed in the war. I think the bigger problem was that US had put military sanctions on Pakistan in both wars (some ally... !) and F-104s couldn't really replace much since they were made to be recon planes. I don't think iran supplied any actual military hardware but helped with providing jet fuel.

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"Arab" is a very broad term. Iran does not have conflict with every Arab country rather some countries who happen to be Arabs.
Iran is an old civilization and it has had regional conflicts since long. There has been rivalry with Greeks, Abbasids, Ottomans, Iraqis, etc.

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Sorry I got confused between Syria and Libya. Did Libya provided with Mirage-III aircraft then? It is speculated on Indian side that possibly Libya had supplied Mirages as PAF lined up 22 aircraft in a PR exercise after 71 war. US was at least there, Brigadier-Genreal Chuck Yeager's beechcraft along with one UN plane was destroyed on Islamabad airport. Chinese never came to help, neither in 65 not in 71:), US has sent a naval strike force led by USS Enterprise which reached Bay of Bengal by 11 Dec as far as I remember.