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so true.
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The odd part of it being " I need to get to know the person before I marry him/her" . You would think that after monthes of living together, they would get an idea. If not then, then after the first kid. If not then perhap after the second kid. I shall never understand it, but I am definately trying to get my friends married!
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I don't know if this one of the signs of the end of the world (not to be religious or anything) but I absolutely cannot believe that people are willing to bring another human being into the world (usually an "accident" ) but you dont' want the social responsibiliities of marriage. These people who practice it usually say "well marriage is a big deal, we dont want to rush into it blah blah blah" they use it as an excuse to fk around and be irresponsible.
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Friends with benefits is supposedly the new trend and it seems to be growing fast. I don't feel it's too much about 'lets see if we are compatible', but rather benefitting from each other.
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^ It's more like... let's mess around, have sex, whatever, but none of the "strings" like u know, being loyal to the person, not sleeping with someone else at the same time etc etc
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It's friendS with benefits. Therefore, not limited to a single partner alone.
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You forgot to read between the lines when I said the following:
Dragging in Pakistani people in here would get me killed.
Typical guppies/guppans here at GS would have hurled burning fire stones on my head for being so immoral to have even thought of it. Thatswhy.
Most of you have very clear headed approach and I am glad to know that you all have awareness that it basically is just an approach to runaway from the allied responsibilities while living in common-law relationships. Yes, its easier for them to part ways when they are not religiously conjoined. The word ‘wedding’ comes with lots of responsibilities which many dread and given the chance socially when they can get the benefit of marriage without being married they would like to prefer it. If you dont mind, let me go a step further calling them…rahne do, mujhe koi haq naheen kisee ko kuch kahne ka. Allah maaf kare. Tobah Astaghfaar.
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Yes, thanks to role models like Oprah.
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May be true for Americans. Back here, satellite t.v. channels have done irreversible damage to our youth. Decade ago, it was unthinkable to date for girls in Pakistan. Today, you can see love-birds at every nook and corner of the town. Comes the mobile phones…aaaah!
Can you imagine what the world is likely to become in the next decade? Horrible.
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^ Sign of the times my friend. Morality will soon become an alien concept.
Theres a hadith that says somewhat to this effect.
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^ I sometimes curse myself for having born in bad times. I wish I was a blessed soul to have been in the company of Huzoor Pak (Pbuh)
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Cellphones are evil. Atleast our parents were able to monitor phonecalls, but the kids of the future are born with cellphones in their hands - that and the internet.
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I want to cry so very much. 
Your nick is seductive. I want to cry again.
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No doubt, there is more harm done by cellphones than good. I mean, when I was a teen I didn’t have a phone and certainly didn’t need one. Now every kid wants one and spends most of the time texting corny messages to friends and talking about who they fancy, gossiping etc. And when the recipient responds (takes just a few clicks) there is a domino effect that cannot be stopped. Phones make people who were previously not so accessible, more easily accessible without anyone knowing.
As for the Internet…least said the better 
Access to porn is now just a click away when back in my teens it was quite a mission getting hold of a mag, let alone a movie.
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Ummm, ok, cold water everyone. Cell phones are a necessary evil. My son has asthma and needs it. My daughter is responsible enough to use one. At one point she was out with her friends and something happened and she called for a ride for herself and another girl because they were being harassed by a group of boys.
Yeah, kids and adults find ways to take advantage in everything, it's the nature of humans, but most can be responsible. Before there was cell phones, how many of you had a note passed to you from a friend of a friend?? :)
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cell-phones and the internet are evil?
Why are you people on GS then? You're using the internet.
Cell-phones are evil. Okay, yeah. I bet anyone who is saying that here has a cell-phone of their own.
Its how you raise your kids that's important. If you raised them right, they wont abuse what you give them.
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Why are you all uppity about no-strings? and about people living togeather? I do not understand. On the one hand you cry about people critisising your way of life - and on the other it is perfectly acceptable to lable someones way of life - culture, belief systems as "discusting" or "cheap" or "socially irresponsible"?
These individuals are obviously happy doing what they are doing - and if it is working for more and more people, why knock it? Other than to feel better about ourselves. These people are not morally inferior to any of you,they just have a different set of priorities and a different value system. Surely you don't need to be told thus.
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Labelling someone as immoral usually comes out of fear. Maybe fear that our kids will do thus or that a future husband or wife was emotionally involved with someone to the extent that they lived together for many years. I think many Muslim people would have a problem with that.
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I don't get the immoral thing, but I definitely belief it is irresponsible to have kids when living together and believe that maybe it stems from a lack of self worth or fear. Morally irresponsible only if kids are involved, maybe. Simply because it is too easy for both parties to throw away a live-in relationship and with kids involved, it gets messy. You kind of hope that with a marriage, a second, third, and forth attempt at getting along happens before the towel gets tossed in.