Bobby1
October 4, 2017, 10:01am
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Here is a white guy charged with terrorism
On January 24, 2011, an Imperial Beach, California , man named Roger Stockham was arrested and charged with terrorism after attempting to blow up the Islamic Center of America in Dearborn, Michigan , which has large Arab-American and Muslim populations. The police made no comments as to his motive.[SUP][1]](Dearborn mosque bombing plot - Wikipedia )[/SUP] Stockham later said he opposed the Iraq war and targeted the mosque to “grab people’s attention.”[SUP][2]](Dearborn mosque bombing plot - Wikipedia )[/SUP] He was arrested in the parking lot outside the mosque with a car filled with high-end, class C fireworks [SUP][3]](Dearborn mosque bombing plot - Wikipedia )[/SUP] including M-80s.[SUP][2]](Dearborn mosque bombing plot - Wikipedia )[/SUP][SUP][4]](Dearborn mosque bombing plot - Wikipedia )[/SUP] Possession of such fireworks is a 15-year felony in Michigan; the terrorism charge can carry up to 20 years. Police chief Roger Haddad described Stockham and the threat he posed as “very dangerous” and “very serious”; at the time Stockham was arrested, there were 500 worshippers inside the mosque. According to Haddad, Stockham had a history of anti-government activity and run-ins with l
Bobby1
October 4, 2017, 10:09am
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Here is some more white men labelled as terrorists as they were furthering their hate for muslims.
Kansas men face life in prison for alleged terrorist plot against Somali immigrants
Patrick Stein, Curtis Allen and Gavin Wright suspected of conspiring to bomb Garden City apartment complex to provoke religious war
ehsan
October 4, 2017, 11:35am
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Plenty of white guys have been called terrorists, the guys who were planning to blow up mosques were rightfully labelled as terrorists, the guy who killed blacks in Church was labelled terrorist. Federal law says that for it to be terrorism there has to be a desire to further an agenda. If they find a political motive as per federal law he would be classified as a terrorist. In case of terrorism the ideology has to be confronted and people who promote that ideology have to be accountable, in this case there seems to be no motive.
Maybe this will help:
According to Nevada state law , an “act of terrorism” is described as follows: “Any act that involves the use of violence intended to cause great bodily harm or death to the general population.”
ehsan
October 4, 2017, 3:19pm
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Obama
October 4, 2017, 5:26pm
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^This young man Trevor Noah man has eloquently defined “terror” and the privileged White Race! LOL!
Obama
October 4, 2017, 6:06pm
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You are again sidestepping the issue by raising unconnected issues, the issue here is the mass killings time and again by white guys and the points raised by the poster above, can you please reply to them instead of justifying these killings by pointing out murders by Taliban. Two wrongs do not make a right. Right is on the rise in the west, look at the rallies in US and the president who is quiet about it because he supports them.
**Ehsan Bhai there is some stirring of the sleepy conscience of the White Privileged Divinely declared Supreme:
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**here we have someone finally speaking up and calling the Kettle Black!
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So let’s review: We will turn the world upside down to track down the last Islamic State fighter in Syria — deploying B-52s, cruise missiles, F-15s, F-22s, F-35s and U-2s. We will ask our best young men and women to make the ultimate sacrifice to kill or capture every last terrorist. And how many Americans has the Islamic State killed in the Middle East? I forget. Is it 15 or 20? And our president never stops telling us that when it comes to ISIS, defeat is not an option, mercy is not on the menu, and he is so tough he even has a defense secretary nicknamed “Mad Dog.”
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If Only Stephen Paddock Were a Muslim**
If Only Stephen Paddock Were a Muslim
Obama
October 4, 2017, 6:07pm
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actually some reports say this Paddock guy was a registered Democrat and he hated Trump supporters!
and this was a Country Music Concert, majority Southern States people gathered!
kinda implies that Mr Paddock did have an agenda…All that planning and execution did have a purpose after all!
Bobby1
October 4, 2017, 8:36pm
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I thought getting rid of Isis would be the best thing for Islamic world. Are we feeling bad for them now. I had posted before that new mandate is for ruthless force and has worked in ridding us of this evil force, refugee crisis has abated because of it. Onama inaction caused a lot of suffering
Obama
October 4, 2017, 10:19pm
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Well Bobby1 the Western Coalition created ISIS because they felt that Muslims should not have even **imaginary Weapons of Mass Destruction!
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which in turn created a power vacuum in Irack!..then the Shia Govt of Syria started a genocide against its majority Sunni Population!
the rest you know is what is going on. ISIS an all volunteer force majority Western Born and bread stepped in with Western Weaponry! and YOU want the Muslims to take care of a grand mess nurtured so carefully by the Western Coalition?
Bobby1
October 4, 2017, 10:35pm
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Well Bobby1 the Western Coalition created ISIS because they felt that Muslims should not have even **imaginary Weapons of Mass Destruction!
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which in turn created a power vacuum in Irack!..then the Shia Govt of Syria started a genocide against its majority Sunni Population!
the rest you know is what is going on. ISIS an all volunteer force majority Western Born and bread stepped in with Western Weaponry! and YOU want the Muslims to take care of a grand mess nurtured so carefully by the Western Coalition?
Didnt God give us the power of choice, no one can force us to kill each other.
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So I had been a members of Madrassas, went to masjids went to Tablighis and came across a lot of hate being spread against the Kuffars, Yahuds, Nasaras, Qadianis, Shias, Ismailis etc, **there were prayers for destruction of the west, yahuds, Shias etc so the religious leaders are actively promoting violence **on people who don’t subscribe to their views and many here feel that 100s of millions maybe not actively participating but still are enablers and silent supporters and they lend ideological support. This is evidenced by support of the likes of Qadri etc. Also we have a history of showing our disapproval very violently and very loudly, as in case of the atrocious cartoons etc so when we stand quiet on terrorism we seem to show support for extremists. White people are standing against the Nazis everyday, they fill streets, cities and physically take on Nazis. Where is a million man march against killers of Mashals or beheaded Shia women. Most will use the Vegas incidence to justify their conspicuous silence against terrorism. He was a one man perpetrator and is now dead with noone following any ideology of his. Religious totalitarian philosophy is promoted by millions.
Yes!! also with Dianne, I used to go to church also and never heard them preaching hate, if churches preach destruction and violence against non Christians then for sure the public will need to oppose
it.
Let us all fear the day when the goras stop actively opposing the Nazis and give cop out excuses for their lack of protest and opposition the way we do.
I have heard about prayers for destruction of kuffar/yahood, but never I heard any molvi urging people to go and kill non-Muslims around the world, so lets not mix things where they don’t belong. “go kill kuffar” is work of likes of TTP supported by India.
If calling him a terrorist makes you sleep better at night than go ahead. He was a true monster. The law here defines a terrorist as who is promoting his ideology thru violence. We dont have any evidence of him promoting any ideology. Talking about the breeding grounds of terrorism is hardly irrelevant. Yes DT is a supremacist and hes ascension to power became reality because of people like these. We can thank people like these and their supporters for making life difficult for all of us. As for Obamas post let us all be thankful that most terrorists are dumb as hell, we just had a dumb terrorist attack in our city.
Even for this Paddock Fox had “identified” connection with ISIS but other channels/media did not support their cause so it fell flat on ground.
What ridiculous excuse, lets not live in world of papers. In real world, there is struggle for power, more power and even more power. When you provide arms and ammo to criminals, gangsters do you think they will opt to walk away and go to masjid?
Bobby1
October 7, 2017, 6:48am
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Never heard of Israelis taking monies from rich Arabs and slaughtering and raping their own countrymen. if this is the most respected cleric, can you imagine the ordinary Mullahs
Obama
October 7, 2017, 3:09pm
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Billboards ask for tips on gunman’s motive**
“If you know something, say something,” said Aaron Rouse, agent in charge of the Las Vegas FBI office. “We will not stop until we have the truth.”
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Paddock, a reclusive 64-year-old high-stakes gambler, rained bullets on the crowd at a country music festival from his 32nd-floor hotel suite, killing 58 and wounding hundreds before taking his own life.
**Welcome to Vegas: Billboards ask for tips on gunman?s motive
**Yes Police and the general Public at large want to know why an apparently quite sane 64 yr old white American Millionaire Accountant will meticulously plan and execute single handed the worst Mass Murder in History!
Like they say truth is stranger than fiction!
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Obama
October 7, 2017, 3:11pm
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**Bobby Please stay on Topic! **“American Public’s reacting to the shooting”
Re: American Public’s reacting to the shooting at the 91 concert
Billboards ask for tips on gunman’s motive
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“If you know something, say something,” said Aaron Rouse, agent in charge of the Las Vegas FBI office. “We will not stop until we have the truth.”
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Paddock, a reclusive 64-year-old high-stakes gambler, rained bullets on the crowd at a country music festival from his 32nd-floor hotel suite, killing 58 and wounding hundreds before taking his own life.
**Welcome to Vegas: Billboards ask for tips on gunman?s motive
**Yes Police and the general Public at large want to know why an apparently quite sane 64 yr old white American Millionaire Accountant will meticulously plan and execute single handed the worst Mass Murder in History!
Like they say truth is stranger than fiction!
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Would FBI reveal its own connections if there were any? Who is checking on FBI’s conflict of interest?? Just a thought.
Obama
October 8, 2017, 5:14pm
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It depends if the Dept (FBI) is Democratic or republican
***actually some reports say this Paddock guy was a registered Democrat and he hated Trump supporters!
and this was a Country Music Concert, majority Southern States people gathered!
kinda implies that Mr Paddock did have an agenda…All that planning and execution did have a purpose after all!* **
FBI already knows this, in my opinion they are mostly Democrats!
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Case is dumped so quickly. No media coverage. No charm in the news since no Muslim involved…
Obama
October 26, 2017, 5:58am
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No actually they are still investigating and are totally stumped that this 63 yr old White person had No known Motive for the Massacre he planned and carried out!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/developments-las-vegas-massacre-040000697.html
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**Another firing in US
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امریکا میں ریاست ٹیکساس کے ایک چرچ میں فائرنگ سے 20 افراد ہلاک ہوگئے۔
امریکی میڈیا کے مطابق ایک سفید فارم امریکی شہری نے چرچ میں فائرگ کی تاہم پولیس نے جوابی فائرنگ میں حملہ آورکوہلاک کردیا۔
رپورٹس کے مطابق حملہ آور نے سدر لینڈ اسپرنگز میں فرسٹ باپٹسٹ چرچ میں فائرنگ کی۔
ڈیلاس مارننگ نیوز کی ویب سائٹ کی رپورٹ میں کہا گیا ہے کہ حملہ آور دوپہر کے وقت سے قبل چرچ میں داخل ہوا اور فائرکھول دیا جہاں زخمیوں میں دو سالہ بچہ بھی شامل ہے۔…
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SID_NY
November 5, 2017, 11:16pm
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Splitting in new thread