2 things , anwar bhai. . . .
- u r from pindi. . i guess the pak army headqtrs. r there . . so ur views r not entirely surprising. . .
- please listen to a lot of u2. . .it helps ,sometimes.
I said nothing only asked people to see what Indians are saying at the other partner of Aman ki Asha. (Times of India)
Believe every Pakistani want to live in good relations with India but not at the cost of right of self determination of people of Jamun and Kashmir.
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Jamiat-ul-Mujahideen, one of the rebel groups active in the area claimed responsibility for the attack by faxing a statement to the local offices of a news agency. ``The attack is in response to India’s propaganda that the armed struggle has weakened in Kashmir,‘’ the statement said.
As it grew dark, the security forces put up floodlights around the Punjab Hotel building where the militants are holed up. The area has been marked off with concertina wires to ensure the guerrillas do not escape under the cover of darkness.
“We are cautious that no collateral damage takes place,” a police officer said.
See what their army chief was saying yesterday. See what they are doing in Pakhtonkhawh See what they are doing in Baluchistan. They are destroying us. They are continuous in their cruel action in Kashmeer.
See what Pakistani forces are doing in NWFP and all over Pakistan. At least Indians don't bomb Kashmiris through fighter jets as Pakistani forces do in NWFP. Such bombs don't discriminate between Taliban and innocent Pakistanis.
And what your forces did to Balochis, ever pondered about it?
It was your hero Bhutto who launched military operation in Balochistan.
If you yourselves want to be sick, then don't blame the weather. Weather is not always friendly.
See what Pakistani forces are doing in NWFP and all over Pakistan. At least Indians don't bomb Kashmiris through fighter jets as Pakistani forces do in NWFP. Such bombs don't discriminate between Taliban and innocent Pakistanis. And what your forces did to Balochis, ever pondered about it? It was your hero Bhutto who launched military operation in Balochistan. If you yourselves want to be sick, then don't blame the weather. Weather is not always friendly.
Now I am surprised.
peace is the only solution
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Around 700 jihadis waiting to strike in J&K
8 January 2010, 02:26am IST
NEW DELHI: Wednesday's fidayeen attack in Srinagar which finally ended on Thursday was not a one-off strike. It was part of a plan supported by
the Pakistani military to step up terror in Jammu and Kashmir so as to avoid an increased engagement against the al-Qaida-Taliban group.
As many as 700 fully-trained terrorists are waiting in the wings to stage attacks in J&K with their "masters" in Pakistan directing them to open "other fronts" as they did in the busy Lal Chowk area in Srinagar.
The fidayeen attacks appear to be a ploy to tap into fears of the US that an escalation in India-Pakistan tensions, perhaps leading to an armed clash, will derail the Obama administration's new offensive in Afghanistan which is critically dependent on Islamabad's support.
Anti-India groups like Lashkar-e-Taiba are al-Qaida associates and have been itching to stage a big "show" in India as the David Headley-Tahawwur Rana plot indicated. These groups have been more than willing to step up the level of violence in J&K.
Intercepts of communication between the jihadis -- killed by security forces during the siege at Lal Chowk -- with their handlers in Pakistan during the terror siege hinted that LeT has already activated its different modules to carry out more attacks.
Referring to the intercepts, a senior official here said, "It is quite clear from their communication that the terrorists are fully prepared to carry out more Lal Chowk-type operations. Reference to opening other fronts indicates the possibility of similar attacks soon."
This is authenticated by a report by global intelligence group Stratfor which says jihadi groups operating in the state are likely to carry out more attacks to instigate more trouble between India and Pakistan and, in the process, derail Islamabad's participation in the war on its western border and its actions against various terror groups.
"We anticipate that Kashmiri jihadist groups will continue to plan attacks against India in an effort to stir up communal violence in that country and stoke tensions between India and Pakistan -- and provide a breather to the jihadist groups being pressured by the government of Pakistan," said the report.
The matter is also learnt to have been discussed in the standing committee meeting of the home ministry on Thursday when participants were given a detailed account of infiltration attempts made by jihadis in 2009. The meeting also took note of fresh challenges before the security agencies not only in Jammu and Kashmir but also on mainland in the light of presence of an estimated 700 terrorists in the Valley.
Sources in the home ministry said most of the terrorists in the Kashmir Valley were from Pakistan who entered India during the past couple of years. While 110 of them entered in 2009, the rest of them might have entered earlier, they added.
Security experts see the fidayeen attack at Lal Chowk as a Pakistani attempt to send a message that Jammu and Kashmir is not as peaceful as claimed by the Indian government.
Retired IPS officer and former Intelligence Bureau joint director M K Dhar said, "The incident shows that Pakistan wants to frustrate Indian attempts to initiate the process of quiet talks with Hurriyat."
With such terror attacks, Dhar said, the Pakistani intelligence agency ISI wanted to convey to the separatists that the armed struggle for Kashmir was still on and the jihadis had capacity to strike at will.
Similar concern was expressed by former additional secretary in RAW B Raman. Stating that there was no change in the jihadi objective of making India bleed, he said, "The Srinagar incident clearly indicates that the terrorists still have capacity to launch massive attack at will."
He told TOI that jihadis' masters in Pakistan, through such incidents, wanted to mark their presence, sending a message that the area (J&K) was not at all peaceful. "The terrorists are desperate and therefore they would like to carry out more such attacks in J&K and outside in coming months."
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They are insulting us continuously. It is true that we are passing through some hard time but as a nation we are now strengthening and soon we will get out of this hardship.
See this from Times of India. ( The partner )
IPL teams ignore Pak players, setting off cries of 'insult'
K Shriniwas Rao, TNN, 20 January 2010, 12:19am IST
MUMBAI: When the auction of players for the India Premier League (IPL) III began at 10 minutes past noon, the excitement was all about which
player would get the highest bid. But 105 minutes later, the big story was that no Pakistani cricketer was touched by any IPL team, sparking off a row that's fast acquiring political and diplomatic overtones.
All the 11 Pakistanis under the hammer were unsold, even though Pakistan are the reigning World Twenty20 champions. The "insult" sparked off angry protests from the Pakistani players and sports minister Ejaz Jakhrani, indicating that the matter may well take on the shape of a diplomatic row.
After the auction, team owners Priety Zinta and Shilpa Shetty said, "We were looking for players who would be available for the whole tournament. It is not that we specifically didn't want Pakistan players."
However, TOI had reported on December 11 that the IPL teams were unlikely to bid for them. On Monday we reported, based on conversations with franchisee officials, a different reason for not buying Pakistani players. These officials had said they would "go slow" on Pakistani cricketers because they had got signals to that effect.
The IPL team owners were reticent on the matter of having ignored all Pakistani players at the auction on Tuesday, but the cold shoulder has already acquired diplomatic overtones and may well spark a row between the two nations.
Last week, TOI had reported that the franchisees would be wary of picking up the Pakistanis at the auction, with one of the team officials saying, "Today if the Pakistan cricketers come and play in the IPL because they've been granted visas, tomorrow there might be talk saying 'why not give them visas for bilateral tours too.' If such a thing happens, it has the potential to put the government (of India) in an embarrassing situation because whether we admit it or not, relations between the two countries are still cold."
Therefore, he said, franchisees have been "very informally" asked to go slow on Pakistani players. In fact, one team official specifically said that "Rana Naved-ul Hasan is the best bet as far as bowlers are concerned." At the same time, he was equally sure that he wouldn't be bidding for Rana.
Informal indications from the Indian government, also reported by TOI, that Pakistani players would face no problems in getting visas clearly were not enough for the IPL teams to take the risk of paying good money in snapping up these players.
IPL chief Lalit Modi dead-batted incessant media queries on the Pak players, saying, "The franchises had the option to pick any player. If you look, they were not the only ones not picked. Availability is a serious issue with all teams without doubt. Based on that the teams have formed strategies."
The reaction was immediate and emotionally charged. Afridi, who was billed as one of the major attractions of Tuesday's auction, said from Brisbane that he was disappointed and upset with the way things panned out. "The way I see it, the IPL and India have made fun of us and our country by treating us this way," Afridi said.
Senior all-rounder Abdul Razzaq said he saw the snub to Pakistani players as a conspiracy between the IPL and the Indian government to insult Pakistani players. "They have basically tried to hurt our cricket and image and this is most disappointing because I believe there should be no politics in sports," he said.
All-rounder Sohail Tanvir, one of the stars of Rajasthan Royals' IPL winning team in 2008, was no less bitter: "We sent names because we thought the franchises wanted us, but if it is all about politics and security they should be clear about it," Tanvir said.
Pakistan's sports minister echoed the 'insult' theme when he said, "I am surprised and disappointed at the way we have been treated. It is not a good sign for improving and enhancing sporting ties between the two countries."
"We gave them security clearance as well, so it was surprising the way they were snubbed at the auction because they are the best in the world in Twenty20 cricket," he added. Minister Jakhrani said he would ask the Pakistani cricket board to explain why the players were treated in this way even though the government had given the requisite clearances to the players.
PCB chairman Ejaz Butt, however, said he was not bothered by the snub given to Pakistani players. "It really does not bother us. What difference does it make to us if our players don't play in the IPL this season. They didn't play in the last season as well," Butt said. Pakistani cricketers took part in the IPL's inaugural season in 2008, but were denied permission by Islamabad to play last year due to growing political tensions with India.
Reactions on the internet suggest that the feeling of having been insulted extends to fans in Pakistan. In fact, some comments even poured vitriol on former Pakistani captain Wasim Akram for "sucking up to the Indians" by joining the Kolkata Knight Riders team as a bowling consultant.
Most of Pakistan's World Twenty20-winning team was up for auction including captain Afridi. In the absence of a mutual understanding between the franchisees, it is difficult to see how they could all have failed to fetch any bids.
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Aman ki Asha become Aman ka ASH............(IPL)
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There cannot be peace between the two sides.. enuff said... so lets not waste anymore time to pursue it...
i dont we can have aman ki asha untill india is ruled bollywood ssstyle and pakistan by As??oles, no matter how sincere we become to each other for peace an event can ruin it all because we have egos that are too larger than what we are, on average we are (india+pakistani) are as whole bhukha nanga illiterate bunch who have to learn logic and reasoning and civility yet.
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two nations who live on broken promises, day dreaming.
i dont we can have aman ki asha untill india is ruled bollywood ssstyle and pakistan by As??oles, no matter how sincere we become to each other for peace an event can ruin it all because we have egos that are too larger than what we are, on average we are (india+pakistani) are as whole bhukha nanga illiterate bunch who have to learn logic and reasoning and civility yet. and two nations who live on broken promises, day dreaming.
It is not that simple.. it is way to complicated
Both the countries are ruled by the most incompetent and short-sighted leaders, the whole politics of these leaders revolves around the tenders and other ways to making money via corruption, the only way they can divert attention is to give public something to talk about... what else could be better than the THINGS between India and Pakistan..
2ndly, no super-power in the world ( including china) want these two countries to have friendly or atleast non-hostile relationship as it is against their interest... i mean if India and Pakistan are friends then who is going to buy weapons worth of trillions of dollars China, Russia and USA..
The above two are also (directly and indirectly) supported by other interest groups who benefit from the tension between the two countries...
On top of everything... their is lack of trust and unless and until Kashmir issue is resolved.. the all three mentioned above will flourish and hopes of having peace between the two shall be nothing more than dream of stupids...
It is not that simple.. it is way to complicated
Both the countries are ruled by the most incompetent and short-sighted leaders, the whole politics of these leaders revolves around the tenders and other ways to making money via corruption, the only way they can divert attention is to give public something to talk about... what else could be better than the THINGS between India and Pakistan..
2ndly, no super-power in the world ( including china) want these two countries to have friendly or atleast non-hostile relationship as it is against their interest... i mean if India and Pakistan are friends then who is going to buy weapons worth of trillions of dollars China, Russia and USA..
The above two are also (directly and indirectly) supported by other interest groups who benefit from the tension between the two countries...
On top of everything... their is lack of trust and unless and until Kashmir issue is resolved.. the all three mentioned above will flourish and hopes of having peace between the two shall be nothing more than dream of stupids...
I agree you know we are such bunch of idiots we proud on borrowed strength (military gadgets ).
If we two nations comprising mostly of bunch of a?? H and day dreamers, egoistic xxxx could get closer and somehow create a stable environment who the check in the world in world can compete with us well have a market of over billion people in close proximity, unlimited opportunities.
untill then keep on ...
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Aman ki Aasha ki WAAT lagh gaeee hai bhai ..... People who DO MATTER in this "aman ki aasha" (aka indian army, Pakistani army) are almost eye ball to eye ball again. Specially Indian Army Chief is having severe constipation
Its just another commercial gimmick from Jang and Indian media group.
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Listen, if this intiative reduces some of the tension, then I am all for this. With the recent firing along the LOC, and this IPL fiasco, we need some sort of thaw. All this jaw jaw might lead to full scale war.
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we have exteremtis both in Inda and Pakistan MUTTHI BHAR se and the majority want peace good relations.
but
both India and Pakistani politician ULO ke PATHEE bane hue hain america ke and when ever they got green signal Chadh ja suli pe ram bhali kare ga, its start
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I am not going to suggest Pakistan dna India should stop hating each other like that is going to happen in our lifetimes. All I am asking they should fight their wars with weapons, planes, tanks, missiles all made by their own engineers and technicians. That way at least the jobs will stay in the country.