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So talking against status-qua and doing the same things which were done by the existing players… change kahan se aaye ga 
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Change ana nhe change agaya hai :ik:
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Altaf Bhai congratulated Qadri. Yesterday MQM announced to fully support Qadri. Can we expect alliance of MQM and Qadri in Punjab?
MQM does not have support base in Punjab, not even among Urdu Speakers. For them to enter Punjab they need support of some mainstream political party and improve their image in the context of Karachi.
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@waleed her kisi ke apne but (idols) hain 
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Pehle Altaf bhai khud to Pakistan ajaye phr Punjab mein anay ka sochay
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Let me tell you one thing brother........The jalsa was huge but the problem was that people were brought from villages forcefully in trucks 2 nights before and minar e pakistan was full of it even two nights before and thats why it was so huge but IK jalsa was not by force people came from their own will unlike this
But still Qadri pulled off a amazing crowd
does not matter if people were brought from villages or cities.... and forcefully? comeon....how come....he is not in government. what force? you say anything waleed...
the fact remains the he is not govt and he pulled off a huge jalsa...rest is your commentary and bias...
luckily I am emotionally not associated with any party yet...so i can be unbiased and I am surprised by the shear size of his jalsa...
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Farooq Sattar was there sitting on the stage rest you can imagine
really..sattar sitting there whole time? what is going on....things changing rapidly
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^ Perhaps the next rally is coming up in Karachi...
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Altaf bhai Pakistan zaroor aaeiN ge. Wo mulk ke leeye apni jaan bhi dey saktey heiN.
Lekin Pakistan meiN unki jaan ko khatra hey. Is leeye wo Pakisan nahi aa rahey…
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when altaf bhai and his "hamdards" were getting out of control last week due to SC notice, and some hidden force pulled their strings back and told them to stay calm for sometime, may be I’m wrong, and just speculating, but now its becoming little clear what that hidden force wanted... strike together, strike at multiple targets...
now just imagine if qadri's "deadline" of 10 january passes by without any change [which he probably intentionally kept ambiguous as to what exactly that change should comprise] and altaf bhai is summoned again or some other more worrying development takes place in that case, and both of these newly found friends unleash their supports and followers against govt and SC, to wreak havoc, what will be the situation? at the same time ANP start pushing army to move in to NW, and rehman malik suddenly deciding to shut down mobile networks... PMLN and PPP come out of sudden love they have found for each other, and tsunamians take it to streets to counter the other tsunami of qadri rising from nowhere... i just hope all this doesnt happen together
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advice from Hazrat Zaid Hamid sb :@:
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Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid [Official]
34 minutes ago
A brief and quick analysis of today’s Jalsa of Dr. Qadri.
A massive and strongly pro-Pakistan crowd indeed MashAllah with only Pakistan flags. This is great to see.
The demand that all clauses of the constitution should be applied in total is the correct one including article 62 and 63. This is a good step and we support it.
He did not say it openly but it is clear that he wants a caretaker setup to come into power now.
The demand that caretaker period can be extended beyond 3 months is also correct and explain the direction he plans to take.
He has promised to block the Martial law. Understandable.
He has praised the media. Though we know the filthy reality of media, but his statement is understandable. He has to use the media for now.
The call for a March on Islamabad is also understandable and a similar Jalsa in Islamabad would create a serious crisis for the government and the Supreme Court.
All political parties and analysts in media have been surprised by the strength of the Jalsa and indeed Dr. Tahir has emerged as a major player now in Pakistani politics.
Dr Tahir has NOT exposed all his cards and the next line of action remains in suspense and would unfold in the coming days.
He has basically remained focused within the political system, NOT giving any indication that the judicial and economic system of the country would also be changed. He talked of strengthening the judiciary, freedom of media etc but not of changing the systems.
BUT
There are few serious issues which need to be clarified and addressed.
The real test of Dr. Tahir would begin NOW, after the Jalsa. Remember Imran Khan Jalsa in Lahore??? First Jalsa is always a strong bang. It is later when the challenge starts to get out of control, just as PTI is facing today.
The presence of MQM in the Jalsa and their unconditional support is dangerous sign. If the demands of Dr. Sahib are met, MQM would be totally out of politics. Then why is MQM offering unconditional support to Dr. Tahir? Just as Shah Mehmood Qureshi and Khursheed Qasuri hijacked the PTI, similarly, MQM would also try to exploit this new enthusiasm of Minhaj youth to hijack the entire movement. MQM is a sinister snake party.
Just before the Jalsa, MQM’s top Rabita Committee leader sent a tweet message to US state department congratulating the on the successful Jalsa !! Now this is highly suspicious and we would strongly advice Dr. Tahir to learn from the mistakes of Imran and keep MQM away. There is no khair in Altaf Hussian. Why would MQM send a Mubarak baad message to US government ??? What is MQM and US government up to???
The government is in a crisis now. Many people would contact Dr. Tahir now and would try to offer him lucrative seductions to exploit the strength of this Jalsa today. The real test will begin now. If he can hold his ground against threats, blackmail and seductions, he may be able to bring a caretaker government after Islamabad Jalsa. The field is all open now. The major political parties have shaken indeed. Supreme Court is in a crisis also. Army is surprised and is watching the development closely. The events now can go in any direction. The field is totally open and unpredictable. Government would not give in easily. If the chaos and anarchy becomes too destructive, then army may have to step in sooner than later. We do not think, the regime or the SC would implement anything in the next 3 weeks.
May Allah bring khair for Pak Sarzameen. We see major chaos, crisis and turmoil in the coming days now but hopefully, khair will emerge from this chaos.
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^ Perhaps the next rally is coming up in Karachi...
shubh shubh bole.. traffic ka waise hi beRa gharaq hai
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does not matter if people were brought from villages or cities.... and forcefully? comeon....how come....he is not in government. what force? you say anything waleed...
the fact remains the he is not govt and he pulled off a huge jalsa...rest is your commentary and bias...
luckily I am emotionally not associated with any party yet...so i can be unbiased and I am surprised by the shear size of his jalsa...
IK pulled off a huge jalsa too without being in Govt isnt it?
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IK pulled off a huge jalsa too without being in Govt isnt it?
sure..where did i say that IK jalsa was fake....it was an absolute success...and i am sayin so is qardi's today's show...
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**shubh shubh bole.. traffic Karachi ka waise hi beRa gharaq hai **
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:eek:
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The presence of MQM in the Jalsa and their unconditional support is dangerous sign.
Now this is highly suspicious and we would strongly advice Dr. Tahir to learn from the mistakes of Imran and keep MQM away. There is no khair in Altaf Hussian. Why would MQM send a Mubarak baad message to US government ???????? What is MQM and US government up to????
MQM wants a toehold in Punjab and it sees PAT as a potential 'service provider' for the job.
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^ the definition that he gave for MQM was hilarious. :@:
** MQM is a sinister snake party.**
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**wow…i thought it was more like 100,000 to 200,000 people max…but this PTI journalist accepting that it was over million
Mubasher Lucman** @MubasherLucman](https://twitter.com/MubasherLucman) My reporters told me it was definitely over a million and could have been 1.5 million counting those who never made it or got stuck