Re: Alim Online - Black Magic Incident
haha
Re: Alim Online - Black Magic Incident
folks this was discussed on this forum back in 2003
this thread more detailed and scary.
Re: Alim Online - Black Magic Incident
Peace All
You know she might have been looking in the wrong direction!
Or she could have blindness in the direct line of sight
The story is a fake one. I don't think this incident occurred at all. It sounds like an internet myth.
Here is my reason for it.
It is well known that those who do Black Magic are Kaafir and it seals and tarnishes the heart of the person. What was she doing in Makkah anyway? A true case would never be able to get that near in the Haram. It is a fake story.
Furthermore, after telling her to stop doing the magic why did he request the husband to divorce her. And why would she listen to him anyway? And what would she get out of stopping the magic if she did do it? To see the Kaabah? Okay that means she will go all the way back there just to see if she can see the Kaabah after stopping the magic.
People need to smarten up. If there is magic around you won't hear about it on Geo! That's for sure. And the break for magic is undoubtedly Falaq, Naas and Ikhlas. For those who read these regularly with intention and understanding they protected from magic, by Allah's (SWT) permission.
Those who believe that magic still persists in their lives after reading the Qur'an are only deluding themselves and want to blame convenient things like 'black magic' rather than dealing with their problems properly.
Family disputes and money problems can be sorted out by the correct action and planning and communication using tools called 'consideration', 'patience' and 'faith in Allah (SWT)' and 'trust' ... Don't blame the magician for your own shortfalls.
If we understand the meaning of Falaq, Naas and Ikhlas, we will quickly realise that they are confirmations of belief in Allah (SWT). They can be turned into du'as easily and can be turned into the action plans also. Only until we internalise and act upon the guidance of the Qur'an can we be safe. The primary meaning of safety is being safe in the mind - That we fear nothing ... except Allah (SWT).
Re: Alim Online - Black Magic Incident
Well why don't we explore the possibility that the supposed Alim had this question staged to get some attention?
Salam h2k
Yes ofcourse thats a possibility and why not. Imagine withing a minute he identified that she does black magic.
Re: Alim Online - Black Magic Incident
Peace All
You know she might have been looking in the wrong direction! Or she could have blindness in the direct line of sight
The story is a fake one. I don't think this incident occurred at all. It sounds like an internet myth.
Here is my reason for it.
It is well known that those who do Black Magic are Kaafir and it seals and tarnishes the heart of the person. What was she doing in Makkah anyway? A true case would never be able to get that near in the Haram. It is a fake story.
Furthermore, after telling her to stop doing the magic why did he request the husband to divorce her. And why would she listen to him anyway? And what would she get out of stopping the magic if she did do it? To see the Kaabah? Okay that means she will go all the way back there just to see if she can see the Kaabah after stopping the magic.
People need to smarten up. If there is magic around you won't hear about it on Geo! That's for sure. And the break for magic is undoubtedly Falaq, Naas and Ikhlas. For those who read these regularly with intention and understanding they protected from magic, by Allah's (SWT) permission.
Those who believe that magic still persists in their lives after reading the Qur'an are only deluding themselves and want to blame convenient things like 'black magic' rather than dealing with their problems properly.
Family disputes and money problems can be sorted out by the correct action and planning and communication using tools called 'consideration', 'patience' and 'faith in Allah (SWT)' and 'trust' ... Don't blame the magician for your own shortfalls.
If we understand the meaning of Falaq, Naas and Ikhlas, we will quickly realise that they are confirmations of belief in Allah (SWT). They can be turned into du'as easily and can be turned into the action plans also. Only until we internalise and act upon the guidance of the Qur'an can we be safe. The primary meaning of safety is being safe in the mind - That we fear nothing ... except Allah (SWT).
I think this is one of the best responses I have read so far! Indeed, the shining knowledge of these extremely brief yet fully encompassing chapters shatter the notions of conjuncture. Brother, I would like to add that if people make an effort to understing the Quran in addition to reading, their paranoia regarding the persistance of magic in their life will dwindle away automatically.
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Hey I got one.
This person I know went to Umrah and there he saw a light in shape on a person on Kaaba's black cover. This person seemed to have wings, like an angel. He asked his Wife, if she is able to see it. She could not see it, so he took his cell phone and capture the photograph. Later that evening, he showed it to his wife and his mother. His mother, was able to see the entity in the picture but his wife still saw just the black cover. When he discussed it with an Aalim and he was enraged that he took the picture. He told him that only people with Faith would be able to see this angel, even in the picture. He later posted the picture on the web, here is the link.
*** Link removed. Mr. Robert please provide a working link. Thanks/ Code Red***
Re: Alim Online - Black Magic Incident
Peace All
You know she might have been looking in the wrong direction! Or she could have blindness in the direct line of sight
The story is a fake one. I don't think this incident occurred at all. It sounds like an internet myth.
Here is my reason for it. ** It is well known that those who do Black Magic are Kaafir and it seals and tarnishes the heart of the person. What was she doing in Makkah anyway? A true case would never be able to get that near in the Haram. It is a fake story.**
How comvenient !!!
You declare someone kafir and then ask how got near to haram ? Would that not be too naive ? In this fashion half of people doing haj can declare other half kafir and vice versa.
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People need to smarten up. If there is magic around you won't hear about it on Geo! That's for sure. And the break for magic is undoubtedly Falaq, Naas and Ikhlas. For those who read these regularly with intention and understanding they protected from magic, by Allah's (SWT) permission.
Those who believe that magic still persists in their lives after reading the Qur'an are only deluding themselves and want to blame convenient things like 'black magic' rather than dealing with their problems properly.
Family disputes and money problems can be sorted out by the correct action and planning and communication using tools called 'consideration', 'patience' and 'faith in Allah (SWT)' and 'trust' ... Don't blame the magician for your own shortfalls.
If we understand the meaning of Falaq, Naas and Ikhlas, we will quickly realise that they are confirmations of belief in Allah (SWT). They can be turned into du'as easily and can be turned into the action plans also. Only until we internalise and act upon the guidance of the Qur'an can we be safe. The primary meaning of safety is being safe in the mind - That we fear nothing ... except Allah (SWT).
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If one is blessed and saved from the torture and turmoil of Black magic he can easily cast doubt on the conditions of people suffering from evils of Black magic. A person who never went through that hell can never understand how painful experience that can be.
You are being too complacent here by dispelling the gravity of sufferring of victims of Black magic. As it looks like you are taking it as lightly as headache ... take aspine and it will go away before you count 1 to 10
People in pakisan and outside do suffer a lot due to jealousy of idiot amd ignorant relatives who find joy in the suffering of their mostly blessed and well off relatives.
Black magic is a reality in our part ( backward) part of the world. And it is painful. It can last for long long time and it can make you mental patient.
ps. I am not sure of the merits of story (incident ) it might contain fabrication or may be a fake one. But in real life, incidents, scarier than that do happen.
Re: Alim Online - Black Magic Incident
the link is not working
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yes,link is not working
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Why black magicians need people to pay them. Why cant they produce black money for themselves. or convert a piece of paper into a $20 bill.
kiddish thoughts!
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Yeah its true my aunt saw the episode.
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yes,link is not working
It is working.
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It is working.
naah,tried many times but not working 4 me.:(
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^ it apears that Mr. Robert is mocking the original story or making us fool by posting and broken link in post 26.
Now as we can not see the image it would be deduced that our faith is not up to the mark. as told in his story that people with weak faith might not see it :)
Nice try Mr. Robert :)
Oh By the way Mr. Robert, if you had provided a working link with a blank image, we would have enjoyed your joke better as it actually would have made some sense :D
Re: Alim Online - Black Magic Incident
How comvenient !!! You declare someone kafir and then ask how got near to haram ? Would that not be too naive ? In this fashion half of people doing haj can declare other half kafir and vice versa.
If one is blessed and saved from the torture and turmoil of Black magic he can easily cast doubt on the conditions of people suffering from evils of Black magic. A person who never went through that hell can never understand how painful experience that can be.
You are being too complacent here by dispelling the gravity of sufferring of victims of Black magic. As it looks like you are taking it as lightly as headache ... take aspine and it will go away before you count 1 to 10
People in pakisan and outside do suffer a lot due to jealousy of idiot amd ignorant relatives who find joy in the suffering of their mostly blessed and well off relatives.
Black magic is a reality in our part ( backward) part of the world. And it is painful. It can last for long long time and it can make you mental patient.
ps. I am not sure of the merits of story (incident ) it might contain fabrication or may be a fake one. But in real life, incidents, scarier than that do happen.
Peace bro Code_Red
Black Magicians are Kaafir, that is a requirement in order to be initiated to the dark knowledge. I can provide references is you wish. That is why I said that they were.
If there is a more profound story that you can present then I can accept it based on it's own merits. Whether it is strange or has a lot of fireworks in it doesn't add credibility in it for me. I see it as motive, proof, ruling out the other options, just like an investigation. If finally the only answer is black magic then I'll accept it. But people tend to do the opposite. First, they fear the unusual, such as hysteria, then before taking the patient to hospital they assume the worst case before eliminating the more likely options.
If a branch of a family are show offs for example, then one day their kid becomes ill, do they assume it to be Black Magic, evil eye or jinn possession? Or do they just take the kid to the doctor? And if it is evil eye that has caused it, then why did the family show off in the first place?
My last comment is on your line above and the word I have put in bold. To this I say, La Hawla Wa La Kuwata illa Billah! There is no might, like that of Allah (SWT). None is worthy of worship nor worthy of fear other than Allah (SWT).
Re: Alim Online - Black Magic Incident
^ it apears that Mr. Robert is mocking the original story or making us fool by posting and broken link in post 26.
Now as we can not see the image it would be deduced that our faith is not up to the mark. as told in his story that people with weak faith might not see it :)
Nice try Mr. Robert :)
Oh By the way Mr. Robert, if you had provided a working link with a blank image, we would have enjoyed your joke better as it actually would have made some sense :D
I could not find a blank image, believe it or not. But yeah you got the point.
Re: Alim Online - Black Magic Incident
Finally....got cured from effects of Black magic and things in my life have started towards betterment !