Re: Alcohol in Pakistan: The prohibition and after
Ban on alcohol is in place not because the state is genuinely concerned about the well being of citizens.
Its in place on moral/religious grounds...to pacify the mullahs jinho na sab logon ki jannat ka theka uthaya hua hai.
This makes it immensely hypocritical that every now and there's news about a few young men arrested in possession of cheap liquor in a lower middle class neighborhood while the privileged people have their glass of wine in their drawing rooms untouched.
Moralistic laws were never supposed to apply to the privileged classes anyway. This goes for any era or society. The privileged live lives by their own rules. The sad truth is that these 'vices' have a much greater potential to harm the common man. The privileged can have their vices and still function properly in society. Life is just unfair on so many levels.
Re: Alcohol in Pakistan: The prohibition and after
I don't think anything positive will come out of revoking alcohol ban, as like other posters have mentioned that there's no writ of law in the country. In western countries where alcohol is allowed they try to regulate the usage so as to make it safer for the people like ban on drink driving and even random checks on the work place and stuff. The country where there is zero conviction rate for rapes, who will punish those people affected by drunk drivers.
NFP is taking the issue as if Pakistan is some western country.
Re: Alcohol in Pakistan: The prohibition and after
Shouldn't the stateless anarchists and beacon of humanity like NFP be more concerned about provision of clean water to rural communities than shedding crocodile tears on alcohol ban?
This chap is so bloody boring, honestly. Has he ever written anything meaningful other than whining about beard, booze and weed from his Lil Wayne postered room?
Re: Alcohol in Pakistan: The prohibition and after
PD, you are such a fan of Afeem F Paratha and his blogs. Is that what you came back to promote these days?
look sheeday...dont start with me again...this is a civilized debate and we are tryin to have a viewpoint....so if you cant add much, go find some hot girls and decide if you want to call them samosa or not....but no need to make personal attacks..and what is this afeem paratha?
Re: Alcohol in Pakistan: The prohibition and after
Just to put things in perspective, in US alcohol related illness costs 224 billion dollars a year, while alcohol generated economy is 400 billion dollars a year, if one third of it is collected as tax, it will be 135 billion dollars, which is about half of what alcohol related diseases will require to be taken care of. So legalise and tax approach that some people suggest in Pak is not feasible economically.
Re: Alcohol in Pakistan: The prohibition and after
Isn't alcohol banned in parts of india? I had a southern indian colleague raised in Gujarat tell me that they had to make deals with army walas there to get bootleg alcohol. I think beef is banned in gujarat as well?
Re: Alcohol in Pakistan: The prohibition and after
cow slaughter is banned in most states, but beef.. mm.. is a gray area if you know people, you can get it. gujarat has an alcohol ban, i think. gandhi was huge on liquor bans. we also have uber-rich liquor baron vijay mallya as a current member of parliament.
Re: Alcohol in Pakistan: The prohibition and after
India has ‘DRY’ areas where alcohol is banned…in some states, you need a permit to buy and consume alcohol. almost all states have hidden market for booze.
all the chamars/paasees and so called untouchables and the poor heavily rely on bootleg sharaab, Tharra and Toddy!
cow slaughter is banned in almost all states except West Bengal. most places in India have Beef that comes from kaali kalooTii water buffaloes. their bachhRaa = our veal
neel gaaye is also banned but Muslim hunters do hunt secretly and transport to their homes secretly as weel…then it’s distributed secretly among friends and relatives.
in my village, 2-3 times the gaddis [Muslim tribesmen equivalent of Rajput worriers] used to bring in the cow meat secretly and sell from it from a secret location…the way we used to tell each other in public about the coming of the beef was by saying…“collectors saab aaye haiN jaa k mil leN” …
Re: Alcohol in Pakistan: The prohibition and after
Perhaps people like NFP can easily secure alcohol, but average middle class Pakistanis cannot. I lived in Pakistan for 30 years and I only know two people there who drink. One is filthy rich and other is a non-Muslim. It is easy to talk about how common it is for Pakistanis to drink when you are sitting in a drawing room of a 4 kanal house in DHA but that's not representative of average Pakistanis.
I will have to correct this misconception that it isn't available. I come from a tiny village in Punjab and it is as easily available there as in DHA. I moved out some 13 years ago but even back then I knew plenty of people in my village who drank. Heck, plenty of youngsters from my own biradri drank. One of the people in the biradri used to actually make cheap liquor and sell it.
I went back after about a decade and heard that it is easier than ever to get it now. Apparently, you can call people and they deliver it to your place. Imagine that! And this is a village of roughly 3 thousand people. Same story in other villages.
Another concerning thing is the number of people using hookers, who are just as readily available if you have the money. Cell phones have made their business much easier. I predict that there will be an aids epidemic in Pakistan soon.
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if you know people, you can get it. gujarat has an alcohol ban, i think. gandhi was huge on liquor bans. we also have uber-rich liquor baron vijay mallya as a current member of parliament.
