most of muslim alcoholics i have met they say this duniya main or bhi to loog hain jo is say bhi baray gunha kartay hain.
n by talking about quaid azam r u tryin to say dat u r on the rite path.
why don't we follow the path of our HOLY Prophet( PBUH).
wats up with racist? i know they r not the rite ppl but atleast they r much better then u (alcoholics) coz when u guys r drunk u don't even know wat u r sayin.
A muslim guy/girl who never drinks, is always sober, SHUNS & pin-points the other muslims who do drink when he/she does have plenty of faults of his/her own which Islam shuns jsut as much. For all anyone can know, those drinking ppl may not have those other faults compared to that muslim guy/girl.
grrrrr......dun't contradict yourself.
sufimaster, you maybe be perfect. you maybe not. God knows.
but think of it this way: Women have to cover appropriately right. You got a group of muslim women who are covered from head to toe (let's say except for the face); then they literally rudely mock a good natured/socially well-mannered muslim lady who is not covered the proper way.
Something wrong with that picture dont' you think?
The Quran emphasises on the importance of covering, true, but also to respect other muslims like their own sisters/brothers.
you want to point out the drinkers huh.....
why not point out the 2-faced muslim ppl.....the muslim backbiters.....the muslims who dont' pray.......the muslims who don't fast for no particular reason......the muslim gamblers......the muslim men & women who don't have any modesty......the unmarried muslims who have vulgar relationships......the muslim ppl who disrespect their parents....& basically the ppl who're only muslims by name....why not just shun them all, hmm?
Why not just work to stop all those bad habits Islam rules out? period. A Muslim is a Muslim who abides by all the rules. & it's possible..
[This message has been edited by kohal (edited July 13, 2000).]
I think we should mine our own buisness and worry about ourselves than others. I know alchol is bad for your health and your religion and thats their problem if they should drink or not.
Aap bohot bure hain sir, mera sar sharam se jhok gia,
aap ne mera pool khol dia. Sir yeh baat to kisi ko nahi pata
thi. Aap ne kion bata di saab ko. Aisa zulm kion kia aap ne ?
No, I do not drink. Neither “dope” nor “pey” has anything to do with me. It’s simply “dopey”. Sorry to disappoint some of the creative minds out there.
i agree kohal that there are a lot other things which muslims r doin which they r not suppose to do. but don't u agree dat alcohol and lie are the roots of most of them.
Why not just work to stop all those bad habits Islam rules out? period.
but for dat kohal we have to start from somewhere. we just cann't stop them at one time. then why don't we start from drinkers.
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*I think we should mine our own buisness and worry about ourselves than others *
yes we can leave them by themselves but the problem is its our (muslims) image they r effecting.
like when i move to my new job i had to explain my colleagues dat muslims r not allowed to drink. they keep on giving me examples of their muslims friend who use to drink n do all kinda of stuff.
we r the representative of islam in a foreign country. wat kinda image we showing.
we can do much better than this.
but don’t u agree dat alcohol and lie are the roots of most of them.
yaa..
“Why not just work to stop all those bad habits Islam rules out? period.” but for dat kohal we have to start from somewhere. we just cann’t stop them at one time.
so true nick. though, by the end, there is gonna be a point where we have stopped them all. if we want.
it’s true, you gotta start somewhere…
somewhere to correct their faults. & a lot of these “exposed alcoholics” have said they’ve either regretted it/maybe they havne’t – but thas’s their whole business. Like Umair said, to worry about ourselves rather than others.
but get this guys, what nerve does Sufimaster have to say:
sufimaster…they got no reason to even care in being afraid of all ppl: you. exactly what authority do you have over us to ‘let us off the hook.’
You should have spelled the alcohlics/ or is it ?>>>alcoholic
Where are you anyways man? you start a fire and not here to put more fuel in it???
Hey one question, Did you assumed those accusations/or by fact those are true???
Yes i do have more questions when you answer those.
Hope i didnt asked a personal questions, i hope you can compile those questions with easy, and answer them in humanly manner. THank you have a good read.
HARooN
HARooN>>>Chorr chori se jaye...haira-pehrii se na jaye<<< :)
[This message has been edited by HARooN (edited July 13, 2000).]