Ahmadi Muslims declare 'Wajibu Qatl' in Pak controlled Kashmir

App baat kernay say pehlay source check nahi kertay, app ko yeh tak nahi pata kay source key validity kiya hay, mujhay yeh bhi nahi pata kay app uss ghair maroof site ker kernay kiya gay thay... aur ab app topic hi change ker rahay haiN... sharam aani chahiyee app ko aur app jaisay dosrooN ko, Ghaliban hadees hay, ya kisi danishwar ka qol.. "Tumharay Jhota honay kay liya itna hi kafi hay kay tum suni sunayee bat ko baghair tehkeek agay bayaan ker do".. yeh thread iss ka munh bolta saboot hay... iss per app say baat hi nahi ho paa rahi..

Re: Ahmadi Muslims declare 'Wajibu Qatl' in Pak controlled Kashmir

@hanibal Why don't you go ahead and prove that the source is making false statements. Why don't you post an article from an "authentic source" claiming that Ahmadis are treated well in Azad Kashmir and Pakistan.

Re: Ahmadi Muslims declare 'Wajibu Qatl' in Pak controlled Kashmir

detoxed miyyan.. Hukoomat ke report shaya karnay main kya hai?? kya aap muslim bun jao ge agar hukoomat ne report shaya kar di to?? Jub baat parliament/hukoomat kisi ki nahi baat aap ke belief ki hai.. aap ne Kufr kia hai..aur agar aapko log muslim keh dain..to phir i think christians ko bhi muslim kehna parray ga.. Aur ek aqal wali baat sun leejeye.. Aap mujhay bataeye kya mirza qadiyani toilet main nahi dead hua???? sacchi baat boht karrwi hoti hai dost.. aur ALLAH apnay Prophets ki izzat rakhta hai..

Now new story started from you so here is the content of that new site ( which i apparently very important to you)

PunjabNewsline.com - Punjab Newsline

This is on the homepage
This website have most of its news covering Indian Punjab region, including few ads for Sex Cartoon s e x doctors advice ( maybe that is the reason you and your fellow give it such importance)

( I can understand people of Indian Punjab visiting this site for local news, but what detoxed was doing there? any clues)

Now World News,

Their world news section is dominated by the news / activities of Indian-Punjabies/Sikh all around the world… plus they have that s e x cartoon stuff displaying on this page as well

Now what was detoxed doing on this website?

  1. He is looking for news ( read propoganda news) from the net to make a thread in GS

  2. He was looking for S e x advice / cartoons and ended up here

  3. He is from Indian Punjab and was checking some local news

  4. May be one of above or all of above

I don’t know which one of them is true…

but if you have not noticed ( i am talking to you who have his name written in devnagri writing style, sorry i cannot read this language), i am asking the authenticity of the news site by itself… hopefully now you may understand ( but i guess you cannot

Oh bhai iss punjabi news site per kernay kay gay thay? check my other post to your fellow friend.. kaheeN app ko payroll per tu nahi rakha howa app kay Khalifa sahib nay, kay app QadyaniooN ko mazloom sabit kertay haiN, ta'kay unhay london maiN asylum milta rahay aur Khalifa Sahib kay chanday key raqm maiN izafa hota rahay ( agr chanda diya jata hay tu)

acha acha..abb samjh lagi…yaar esi fazool harkaton ke lyye tumhaare paas hi time ho ga mien baal bachon waala insaan hoon…orr agar tum google news pe search karro to website pe tumhien le jaaye ga theek hai na…i searched on google and went to that website…agar orr details chahyye to bataao step by step instructions bhej deta hoon…orr koi sharam karro wahan konsa link dia hai tumhien orr tum kia dekh rahe ho

yeh waqt bataye ga dost.. lets wait and see who is digging its own grave india or Pakistan..

So mera pehla point hi sahi sabit howa, per choonkay app ko aur kuch nazr nahi aata aur app nay kasam kahayee howee hay ainak bhi nahi lagani issi liya sirf selective cheezaiN hi nazr aateeN haiN...

tu sara din yehi kaam kertay rehtay haiN, google per qadyaniyooN kay mutaliq news??? achi job hay...

janaab aapko zindagi mien koi orr kaam nahin....GS pe bethne ke ilaawa to iska matlab nahin sab internet pe beth ke Jamaat Ahamdiyya se related news dhoondte rehte hian theek hai na....

google pe jaao..news pe click karo....Search bar mien Ahmadiyya Punjab type karro...kaafi news aayien gi....un mien se ye waali news bhi hai...us link pe click karro....orr news parho orr copy karro...kitna time laga....2 minute....i am sure tum 200 minute orr fazooliat pe lagaa dete ho gai or agar mene apni community ke baare mien news search kar li to tumhaari dhoti dheeli ho gai....abb topic pe waapis aa hi jaao.

Nahi janab, Zindagee maiN tu buhay kaam hay, Aaj Office maiN zyada kaam nahi... App kay pass itna time hota hay kay app baqaida say Internet per search engines maiN ja ker AhmadiyooN per ho rahay mazalem ya uss per likhi gayee khabrooN ko talaash karaiN, meray khayal say tuyeh full time job hay..

Ghaliban app kay bachay ro rahay thay ya phir app nay ainak nahi lagayee thee, issi liya iss site ka hawala day diya....

Topic tu baad maiN shoro hoga pehlay iss site key credibility to bataóo

waisay bhi AhmdaiyooN read QadyaniyooN kay do hi ronay haiN iss jahaaN maiN,

1) Sab ham per zulm kertay haiN

2) Hamara nabi jhoota nahi

so how about a change, app zara iss site key credibility tu prove karaiN.. age ker saktay haiN..

Bhai in logon ka kaam he yeh hai.. apnay aapko mazloom sabit karna.. aur Pakistan and muslims ke khilaaf saazish karna..

Translation: killing "Kafirs" is okay! How sick.

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Pakistan is digging her own grave and her people will keep denying it until it's too late...I really hope that this will not be the case though.

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I agree...

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Apparently there some people who believe every bad thing Pakistan is accused of
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Pakistan is not risking its own survival by being a hotbed of Islamism?

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Ahmadi/Qadiyani/Mirzai people are indeed kaafirs.. Though its their right to live in Pakistan as Pakistanis, But they have to live in Pakistan, NOT as muslims, like they can not call their prayer place as mosque etc..
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Here is another "peaceful" Islamist! Who cares? In the US Mormons, the American Christian analogue to subcontinent Ahmadiyas, are allowed to practice their sect freely and call their places churches, etc. No one is killing or persecuting them. In fact, a Mormon may be the next president.

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There is no doubt about it that these are declared and accepted all over muslim ummah as kaafirs and a Fitnah in muslims..
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Sadly, yes, while Bin Laden and co. are cheered as heroes by many Muslims. Notice that only **one **fatwa has ever been issued calling Bin Laden a "kafir" (compared that to the number of fatwas against Salman Rushdie)? And that fatwa was in Spain, not in a Muslim majority country.

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There is no problem is they live normally like christians/Hindus l
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You mean accept second-class status? Under Pak law the testimony of a Christian man is worth half that of a Muslim and the testimony of a Christian woman is worth zero. Needless to say, such status appeals to no one and Ahmadiyas will not accept it without a fight.

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gainst Pakistan because they know that its Pakistan which officially declared them as kaafir
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Why would a state officially make such a declaration unless it is ascribes an inferior place to "kafirs"? Otherwise what is the purpose of such a declaration?

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98% of people in Pakistan are muslims..
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No one knows the real number because people like you kill anyone who converts out of Islam so converts keep quiet. Pakistan is overwhelmingly Muslim (if you count Shia as Muslim and I know many of you don't) but the 98% figure is not reliable because of the mafia-style tyranny of not allowing freedom of conscience in Pakistan.

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but of course if only you had been smart enough to differ between right and wrong, verify the source of info, then you might not be following MIRZA Sahib...
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Mirza is as credible as any other religious "leader." There is no concrete evidence behind any religion. It is all speculation so verifying sources is useless.

The irony in you speaking of fascism is surely lost on you…

Here is a definition of fascism:

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A form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion.[

Change the word “nationalist” to “Islamist”…](“Definitions of fascism - Wikipedia”)

I provided you links from your own Pakistani media. Yet you keep whining about this one article from the other side of the border.

Let's assume that this article is rubbish, does that change the situation for Ahmadis or any other minority in Pakistan? Do you at least believe your own media, or do they have something against Pakistan as well?

I don't know why you felt the need to bring up my screen name and it looking like it's in Devanagari Script. But yeah, let me tell you that it's not Devanagari and doesn't even look like it at all.

Re: Ahmadi Muslims declare 'Wajibu Qatl' in Pak controlled Kashmir

[mod] Let me make few things clear for those who haven't read the forum rules:

1) Personal attacks and name calling is not allowed
2) You're not allowed to attack another persons religious beliefs
3) If you want to discuss religion I suggest you start a thread in religion forums. This is a political forum.

5) Next person calling another person "kafir" will get 50 points infraction & it will get you booted from the site for 30 days. Consider this serious warning. Thread cleaned up. I'm keeping an eye on it. [/mod]