in molvio ki phunno hi kaat deni chahiye..na rahay ga baans na bajay gi baansri
VEry sad incident..........
but socalled molvis are not alone in this.......so we should not restrict ourself in criticising all moulvis..........many scholls specially boarding schools experiance these situations.....
the best way is to have strict rule regarding boarding.and lodging.......only adult students should be allowed to live in campuses....
Astagfirullah
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in molvio ki phunno hi kaat deni chahiye..na rahay ga baans na bajay gi baansri
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Good Idea. I also know of a madrassah in Rawalpindi where a 8 year old had to undergo a Maulana's frustration.
There are 2 very sad and disturbing problems there - the problem with the madrassahs and the problem with sexual abuse of children. In Pak for some reason, its pretty much ignored and I've often wondered why. I know a family who live with the grandfather (mother & father are deceased). Grandfather has a permanent "uncle" houseguest who is a pedophile. They have had many servants run away after this sicko had a go at them. The couple is raising 2 children in the house with him and think they have nothing to worry about!!! (He likes "older" boys, he only does it when he's drunk, he's getting older and losing interest etc - many excuses) I completely dont understand why this animal was never accused publicly - why he hasnt been sentenced to castration or something. I mean, if someone over there thinks their daughter is having premarital sex, they can kill her for it and get away with it - so why is sex with children ignored? Thats much worse. As far as the madrassahs, the govt was supposed to start monitoring them and regulating them which would be a good start in taking care of the many problems. But thats not really happening either. Very sad.
some time ago, a similar people exposed in uk mosques for this crimes in a TV documentry. and bring another shame to Muslims here.
most of these guys brought from pakistan. and assumed they can have a go here as well. many were brought to justice.
the real shame is when other people try to hide this to avoid shame for the Mosques reputition.
every person, that has direct contact with kids. specially teachers should go through a screening process to get to such place. or a body to give license to teach. but then again things like this to get are easy to get.
Re: abuse of a kid at madrassa
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Abid was blinded and maimed in the assault, which he says came shortly after he rejected sexual demands from the Islamic teacher at a madrassa in a crowded, lower middle-class district of Karachi
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Fraudiay , very sad to see u stereotyping… Not all madrasah’s do that , “A Pakistani student was beaten with base ball bats in a well reputed American university “
Now should I give a statement like “
we all know this stuff goes on, there has been wide spread talk about it, but nothign is ever done.
do people find it sickening that those who are supposedly freedom preachers have such sick actions? , the university system in USA needs to be clean for many reasons, this being one.”
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**Fraudiay , very sad to see u stereotyping… Not all madrasah’s do that , “*
Pakoray.. very sad to see you jump up and down without realizing the that statement was quoted from the article, for which a link was provided.
those are the words of the author, link is given there, please pass on your complaints to the author, thank you.
additionally, where exactly did I say that every madrissa does this? had you been following my statements on madrissas, you would have seen that I have always maintained that "some" bad madirssas give a bad named to a needed institution..do a search..and read up.
“A Pakistani student was beaten with base ball bats in a well reputed American university Now should I give a statement like “
we all know this stuff goes on, there has been wide spread talk about it, but nothign is ever done.
sure give your statement. who is stopping you. if its true, speak up.
*do people find it sickening that those who are supposedly freedom preachers have such sick actions? , the university system in USA needs to be clean for many reasons, this being one.” *
sure bhai..every place needs to be weeded out of such predators, whether it is some church, some university or some madrissa. I was including the similar issues chgurches are facing, but you conveniently missed it.
Problems at other places do not make this one right.
Originally posted by Fraudia:
Pakoray.. very sad to see you jump up and down without realizing the that statement was quoted from the article, for which a link was provided.
those are the words of the author, link is given there, please pass on your complaints to the author, thank you.
additionally, where exactly did I say that every madrissa does this? had you been following my statements on madrissas, you would have seen that I have always maintained that “some” bad madirssas give a bad named to a needed institution..do a search..and read up.
** Ahhh.. Acha!**
sure give your statement. who is stopping you. if its true, speak up.
Acha…Acha…
sure bhai..every place needs to be weeded out of such predators, whether it is some church, some university or some madrissa. I was including the similar issues chgurches are facing, but you conveniently missed it.
Problems at other places do not make this one right.
Acha
are you noticing the errors in your ways and agreeing, or just sneezing today.
Fraudz, no he is not sneezing. He is trying to but Dilawar Khan standing behind won't let that happen. So everytime, Dilawar moves, Pakora says "Aah aah, achaaa" and not Achoo.
It happens in schools in England too, the only difference is here the law is strict so they have to be careful but still I’ve seen enough male teachers being sacked and taken to court for fondling little girls and I’ve even heard one teacher sympathise with a paedophile colleague who got made redundant saying “…it wasn’t his fault, it’s young ones these days, they dress like tarts, what do they expect?”
And PE teachers pervert over kids all the time, we had this old teacher about 50+ and after every lesson he would come into the changing rooms to ogle at the showering boys and his rock on made it so obvious, I cant bear to think of :yukh:
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Fraudz, no he is not sneezing. He is trying to but Dilawar Khan standing behind won't let that happen. So everytime, Dilawar moves, Pakora says "Aah aah, achaaa" and not Achoo.
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Ahhh Acha....Dilawar likes ur achoo's Funguy, rather then my acha :(
Fraudiay:Acha ..(in a disagreeing way) ;)
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Ahhh Acha....Dilawar likes ur achoo's Funguy, rather then my acha :(
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So in essence, you do agree to having a Dilawar in your life.
OKKKKKKKKKKKK.
Ahhh.. Acha ..unlike u I am not in denial Funguy.