aaj kal ki laRkian

[redidentity]

Re: aaj kal ki laRkian

i totally agree with U NaMaan :)

[Sehrysh]

@NaMaan

I read that book too but it depicts are pure western mentality. The traits we are talking about in Pakistani society are usually after getting married or being in a relationship. When girls actually show their 'real side'.

I'm the ultimate fence-sitter and can see both sides. I've seen the girls the guys are talking about and I think, poor schmuck - I can't believe he got suckered by her innocent act while she was trying to phaans him.

But then, I see the girls who are intelligent, attractive, reasonable in their expectations and OH BOY, the biggest taboo - "normal" who get passed over because they don't play games (not because they don't know how - but because they can't be bothered). So really who's at fault - the guy for not seeing past the surface and getting suckered or the girls for playing mind games with the guys (or the other girls who don't play mind games for not being in the game)?

[Reha]

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I think its a two way street. I do think girls these days are looking for Prince Charming but men also dream of the Victoria's Secret model that doesnt exist.

They want a skinny, milk white, doctor, long silky hair, doesnt need make up, obediant, wants to live with his parents and just adore him all day long.

Thats not asking for a whole lot is it? :)

[redidentity]

@PSquared

I think its a two way street. I do think girls these days are looking for Prince Charming but men also dream of the Victoria's Secret model that doesnt exist.

They want a skinny, milk white, doctor, long silky hair, doesnt need make up, obediant, wants to live with his parents and just adore him all day long.

Thats not asking for a whole lot is it? :)

atleast i never wished such thing.. :)

[redidentity]

Re: aaj kal ki laRkian

yes livin with parents is a point we think of n i blv thats fair enuff..

don u thin?

[Dubaiwali]

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^what did you wish for then?

[NaMaan]

Re: aaj kal ki laRkian

... and this whole thread is back to the point from where it started ... exactly .. 'Me me me me me me me ... us us us us us' ...

Whichever the angle this world will rotate, it will always be men's fault. Either its choosing the wrong woman or expecting few normal things that everyone wants in a relationship. Why don't girls just stand up and say that ok we need to get our act straight and we'll try to act like a team partner who doesn't need attention all the time like a baby.

[AnjanaSaDil]

@NaMaan

… and this whole thread is back to the point from where it started … exactly .. ‘Me me me me me me me … us us us us us’ …

Whichever the angle this world will rotate, it will always be men’s fault. Either its choosing the wrong woman or expecting few normal things that everyone wants in a relationship. Why don’t girls just stand up and say that ok we need to get our act straight and we’ll try to act like a team partner who doesn’t need attention all the time like a baby.

in that case, the boys have to agree to stand up with us and say the same.

[jalebi121]

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ALL girls in all societies will have more conditions and be more choosy. Biologically, the women sacrifices much more getting married than a male. She is pregnant for 9 months, possibly breastfeeding for the same amount of time, and if she is abandoned, her social value diminishes considerably. So OF COURSE, a girl is going to want to find the one person who can make all those risks worth it. Honestly, when i hear about some of the crappy guys some guppans get stuck with, i think they should have been MORE selective!

[AnGeL_EyEs]

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NaMaan there could be underlying reasons why some girls may seek attention....especially from their significant others. Lets not fail to understand those underlying reasons. Perhaps there was something in their past that made them feel needy or made them become "attention seekers". Maybe an absent father, or an abusive one. could be...right?

[AnGeL_EyEs]

@jalebi121

ALL girls in all societies will have more conditions and be more choosy. Biologically, the women sacrifices much more getting married than a male. She is pregnant for 9 months, possibly breastfeeding for the same amount of time, and if she is abandoned, her social value diminishes considerably. So OF COURSE, a girl is going to want to find the one person who can make all those risks worth it. Honestly, when i hear about some of the crappy guys some guppans get stuck with, i think they should have been MORE selective!

:k: excellent point made here.

[Sara516]

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Archie married Veronica, that shows you how stupid guys are.

[Sehrysh]

Archie married Veronica, that shows you how stupid guys are.

Right on!! He went for the flash and not the substance..

[Dubaiwali]

Re: aaj kal ki laRkian

archie married veronica??? when did this happen?

[McPendo]

@Niksik

So I was talking to 3 eligible bachelors from GS (on chat) last nite. Having the GS baji status, they shared their concerns about girls today.

This is what they said in summary:

1. That girls are very materialistic
2. It’s always about them (they never look at things from the other person’s perspective)
3. They have too many terms and conditions before marriage
4. They are not flexible
5. They always blame the guy for everything

Is this true or were those guys overreacting?

Please don’t shoot the messenger

If a. You drool in front of an Jewelry/shoe store.
b. Dont give a crap about your partner.
c. Talk in a high pitch voice.
You’re exactly like those girls described above!

[Sehrysh]

@NaMaan

... and this whole thread is back to the point from where it started ... exactly .. 'Me me me me me me me ... us us us us us' ...

Whichever the angle this world will rotate, it will always be men's fault. Either its choosing the wrong woman or expecting few normal things that everyone wants in a relationship. Why don't girls just stand up and say that ok we need to get our act straight and we'll try to act like a team partner who doesn't need attention all the time like a baby.

First of all - ask any married man - its ALWAYS the guy's fault. The golden words in any marriage are "YES DEAR" "WHATEVER I DID, I'M SORRY DEAR" :).

Like I said earlier - you're not wrong that some girls meet the characteristics listed in Niksik's post - but you are wrong in thinking that most girls are like that. They're not. You can't paint all women with the same brush.

That would be akin to my saying that aaj kal key larkay:

• Are emotionally stunted - incapable of sharing their feelings
• Are huss'n-parast and want to marry supermodels
• Don't have the cojones to man up in wife/mom issues (not saying the wife's always right - she's not)
• Mess around before marriage with all and sundry, but expect to marry aseedhi, sadhi larkee
• Want a housewife to look after their home and raise their babies, but she should also be educated, cause well the cost of living's gone up and they'll need the second income - but he's too much of a man to help out with housework.

But while I could make a generalization based on personal experiences with guys who met the criteria above - I KNOW that not all men are like that. There are some true gems who give a girl faith that Mr. Right (not Mr. Perfect) is out there somewhere.

[NaMaan]

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^^ Plz refer to my previous post. You are doing the same thing again.

*Me me me me me … We we we we we … us us us us. Men bad men bad … *

Now I really know how girls are so full of themselves. shudders

I wonder if any women ever thought about ‘under laying circumstances’ regarding how men behave like we are always advised to do so. Allah please save us men. Ameeeeeeeeeeeeeen.

[Sehrysh]

@NaMaan

^^ Plz refer to my previous post. You are doing the same thing again.

*Me me me me me … We we we we we … us us us us. Men bad men bad … *

Now I really know how girls are so full of themselves. shudders

I wonder if any women ever thought about ‘under laying circumstances’ regarding how men behave like we are always advised to do so. Allah please save us men. Ameeeeeeeeeeeeeen.

Okay - I’ll confess to having a blonde moment here (though my hair stylist hasn’t let me add any blonde to my hair since the last hair fiasco), but where do you see “me, me, me” attitude in the post.

I thought I was more balanced in my comments and acknowledged both perspectives - as neither girls or guys always being right, nor always wrong. If you read the post carefully - the main point I’m making is that it’s wrong to make generalizations - either about aaj kal ki larkiyan or aaj kal key larkay AND that accountability for one’s choices rests with each individual.

And I don’t understand your comment above - please explain.

[NaMaan]

@Sehrysh

Okay - I’ll confess to having a blonde moment here (though my hair stylist hasn’t let me add any blonde to my hair since the last hair fiasco), but where do you see “me, me, me” attitude in the post.

I thought I was more balanced in my comments and acknowledged both perspectives - as neither girls or guys always being right, nor always wrong. If you read the post carefully - the main point I’m making is that it’s wrong to make generalizations - either about aaj kal ki larkiyan or aaj kal key larkay AND that accountability for one’s choices rests with each individual.

And I don’t understand your comment above - please explain.

Thanks God only women have blond moments. Btw for my last comment I was refereeing to AE’s post (link).

Btw title of thread is 'aaj kal ki laRkian’and not ‘lerkay’ … so please leave us alone for atleast this thread. Thanks.

[Captain_FT]

@Niksik

So I was talking to 3 eligible bachelors from GS (on chat) last nite. Having the GS baji status, they shared their concerns about girls today.

This is what they said in summary:

1. That girls are very materialistic
2. It’s always about them (they never look at things from the other person’s perspective)
3. They have too many terms and conditions before marriage
4. They are not flexible
5. They always blame the guy for everything

Is this true or were those guys overreacting?

Please don’t shoot the messenger

Well yes! today not all but most of the girls have this disease in them as well as boys also have today. i agree wid all things said by niki sis but by adding “mostly” instead of “all” in each and every situation and point which must not be a way.