^ thank god
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*Originally posted by Prince Abbas: *
As someone said earlier, this is not what the question is. There is no point moving in every direction. So please try to stay focussed.
I would like to answer you, but I would not like to pursue it.
What I put in bold is what is a classic case of how an atheist/agnostic thinks. Atheists argue about God as if they are talking about Charlie or Abdul Quddus.
The idea that everything needs creator is the law of universe. But you can not implement it on a Being who actually MADE these laws. He is above such comparisons.
Try to think beyond your narrow three-dimensional world.
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Nature can be explained by science to work perfectly on a daily basis without the guidance of a deity. The only reason we refer to a creator as an entity - "He", "creator" or "being" - is based on belief in a scripture and an inablity to see in 3 dimensions.
few of ma mates dont believe in god i asked them y and they answer was if there was a god he wouldnt let us suffer in this world. he wouldnt let our close ones die. if he did exist he would let this world be in peace and not in war.
i told them what i believed that this life is a test there is a after life. they know sumthin exists but they are too angry to believe.
Allah has not caused war on humans. humans are the ones that are to blame. thats what i argue with these ppl, but hey they dont wanna beleive its their loss
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*Originally posted by Prince Abbas: * Try to think beyond your narrow three-dimensional world.
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well if you have some lala-land world theories.. feel free to share them.. I only know of laws that apply to this world we live in.
oh btw Santa Claus does exist .. u may not be able to fathom his existence if u think in your narrow three-dimensional world! :p
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*Originally posted by Seminole: *
Nature can be explained by science to work perfectly on a daily basis without the guidance of a deity.
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True about nature. After all, we see all animals living in this world without obvious belief in anything.
But it's not nature or animals we are discussing. And I am not saying if we will die without religion.
I am saying what will be the condition of the world if there had been no religion in this world?! Do you think humans would have developed so much without the boundaries setup by religion?
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The only reason we refer to a creator as an entity - "He", "creator" or "being" - is based on belief in a scripture and an inablity to see in 3 dimensions.
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This part is about the existance of God. I can comment on it, but I don't think this is the moment for it.
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well if you have some lala-land world theories.. feel free to share them..
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What is good and bad? What is your reference to call something good and bad? Is it defined by religion or nature? Do you think killing is bad? If it is bad then why do you apply it only on humans, and not on other animals?
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I only know of laws that apply to this world we live in.
oh btw Santa Claus does exist .. u may not be able to fathom his existence if u think in your narrow three-dimensional world! :p
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The topic would be more interesting if we discuss the topic itself.
A side comment.
You think Santa Claus and God are comparable because you can not see them both. But can you feel God? and can you feel Santa?
There can be no 100% proof of God. Because there is no such thing as 100% proof. It's always some confidence level percentage which which determines the validity of the proof.
Coming back to the topic, I would appreciate your insight on the question.
The world would probably be a little better off.. when people don't go around making life miserable for others just on the basis of the argument of whose God is bigger..