Re: A queer feminist Muslim you should meet
Why would u call her one?
Re: A queer feminist Muslim you should meet
Filth! I wonder if she even knows how much she has disrespected Islam ! Anyhow , us humans may just not be enough to get through to her, hence why , its best to leave her case with Allah to deal with her.
Pwner , you asked if this is how muslim immigrant kids will put it into perspective. My answer is no, In Shaa Allah not. I admit though that due to “influences” while growing up, I did question a lot of things in life and religion , but every single time, I found that Allah is the truth. Every single time , my own judgments came right in my face and they taught me so much, strengthened me so much in my faith.
If I focus on my parenting skills right , In Shaa Allah my kid might go through somewhat of what I went through , I may not be able to protect him completely, but I know I will inculcate in him to know the difference between right and wrong , civil and evil and that will protect him from influences around .
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Because she is asserting that Islam allows (or even encourages) her to do what she is doing.
I don’t have any issues with what she is or what she does. I don’t claim to have much knowledge about the religion but even I know that whatever she is doing cannot be remotely describe as “Islam”, please.
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From memory shei think she write " my version of islam". So yes in her mind it is allowed. Good for her.
And if blatant lying is reason enuf not to respect anyone, then NOONE deserves respect. Fir everyone has lied.
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and yet the definition of islam is submission (to Allah) maybe that is all that’s required. a belief.
sooo. think about it. maybe personal interpretations that are logical are better than ones pulled out of nihari-filled beards.
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This right here is the problem. You can argue against her points, many of which I disagree with, without calling her filth. That just shows emotion and irrationality, a common fault with the religious. Resorting to such tactics shows a flaw in one’s argument imo, an inability to effectively counter your opponents points.
That said, questioning isn’t bad. What you call “influences” is called broadening your perspective. If you keep your kid sheltered of course they will never realize that there are other things in the world. If this is the way to keep someone religious then you need to reevaluate the value of religion. I’m confident I could let my kid read Dawkins, Hitchens, and any other manner of atheistic texts and they would still have a healthy respect for religion. They would not be morons who believe in fairytales and fantasies, nor would I wish them to be. Teach your kids to be critical thinkers and value the practice of religion, and its benefits beyond simply avoiding hellfire.
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Just reread her statement. She states there are several interpretations of the Holy Book. And this is hers.
As for a comment above abt teaching kids right and wrong. Teach them not to discriminate. Be tolerant of everyone. Of different orientations. Rest will fall into place.
Praying n times a day is useless without this tlerance. And this lady gets it. Learn from her.
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I disagree. She is blatantly breaking rules and offering up rationale for why it’s okay to do so. Fine, she can live as she likes and she should be able to offer her perspective without being mocked or disrespected, as some in this thread are doing, but she should also simply own up to the fact that she knowingly breaks rules.
There is actually research to suggest the potential downsides of cohabitation and premarital sex, more so for women than men (don’t blame me, blame mother nature), resulting in increased rates of divorce and less marital satisfaction. Although, the latter also applies to men but to a lesser degree. And obviously, these findings may not imply causation, just correlation.
Abortion is a whole other issue and again, there are moral arguments to be made for not terminating a pregnancy simply for convenience. I think it’s reckless that she suggests abortion as an alternative to being moderate with your sexual impulses.
Again, she is fine to live as she likes. She is also correct that a belief in God is one of the most important tenets of Islam. She is wrong, however, in asserting that her lifestyle is what exemplary of one following Islam. And you know what, that’s fine. Many of us break religious rules. My stance is that you can do what you like in private, just don’t try to sway me to your moral structure, and if you do, you damn well better be well informed and your logic better be well reasoned, because I’m definitely going to try and skewer you.
Edit: To add to your recent post, there are things in religion which are open for interpretation, and other that are pretty ironclad. She’s muddling the two under the pretense of open mindedness. Again, I have no issue with what she wants to do, but don’t try to pass it off as religious interpretation. Own up to the fact that you’re choosing to ignore rules that are definitely not open for interpretation, e.g. premarital sex.
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Ghost, my bad , if it came across as if I am calling the writer of that article /blog filth. I exclaimed with that word at what I read ! every word of that article I felt was nothing but crap. Nevertheless, tolerance would be when a non muslim says these things , its then that you think , Islam is new to them. But a person, born in a muslim household, claims to be a muslim and then decides to disrespect Islam is just plain crap and at least worthy of being told off for their views.
Influences are part and parcel of life, no one will ever live a life without influences of sorts. That is why I said I cannot protect my kid from experiencing them. I can only teach him how to deal with them without losing his own faith. I am not a molvi who believes in living in a bubble and completely agree with you in what you said in the later half of your post.
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I agree that most of her views go against the mainstream islamic views but you cant deny that there are many different interpretation of many things. many muslims have sex before marriage by having a ‘mutah’ or temporary nikah which many scholars say is totally wrong and not lawful. some people say hijab is not necessary while some say niqab is necessary, some say music is haram. most people do follow their own version of islam and justify it somehow.
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Here is why i disagree with you. In her case she got no choice but to have “sex outside marriage”. I don’t believe she used works premarital sex.
so for her sex outside marriage only option.
As for interpretation of ANY religion being varied just look around u. Ahmed I non Ahmed I Shia sunny just within islam. Every religion has room for interpretation. And she has every right to her interpretation.
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Also she is not trying to sway anyone.
As for abortion, pro choice all the way.
As for iron clad - you used prematital sex as example. In her case since marriage not option this is her only choice. She calls it sex outside marriage. Which in her case is nit cheating.
To me she is a true religious person. And those who are abusive towards her are not.
Folks here say don’t judge. Onky God can. Except in this case boy r they judging.
Re: A queer feminist Muslim you should meet
These kind of self centered and psychotic people need to be taken lightly and efforts need to be made to reform them so they can snap out of their delusions.
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sorry i read mate intend of meet in the title of the thread. I will leave now.
carry one folks.
Re: A queer feminist Muslim you should meet
For any interpretation, you need to present the source first and interpret it in your way. She has every right to her interpretation and I have every right to tell you that her interpretation is BS. Just like my interpretation of the constitution of USA which says Southie is the governor of Kansas. 
Re: A queer feminist Muslim you should meet
Please. Not Kansas!
Re: A queer feminist Muslim you should meet
instead of brownback they will have brown-dude for governor
Re: A queer feminist Muslim you should meet
i want to slap her. With a whale.
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She lives in a Western country where she could have a civil union if wished it. If it’s her intent that matters then she can make do with what she has. Many gay people, before legalized marriage, committed to one person. She clearly states that she doesn’t. I think all sects of Islam are agreed that this is a clear cut “no”. That’s not up for interpretation, but she insinuates that it is.
There are two separate issues here. She can advocate for tolerance, and I agree with her here, without *******izing religion. Islam is not in tune with premarital sex and abortion as contraceptive. If she thinks that’s backwards, fine, that’s her opinion, but don’t try to make religious arguments for why they’re okay. Admit that you’re knowingly breaking rules and trying to justify your behaviour. Part of religion is self control, which she clearly does not believe in.
I can defend her right to live as she wishes and still call her out for BS’ing about her piety.
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This is called defence mechanism, when the pious ones sin they have similar things going on in their mind to justify the acts.