A Hindu wrote Pakistan's first national anthem (merged)

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I think what jagan nath wrote was a milli naghma. What hafeez jalhandary wrote was qaumi tarana. From what i know is that the reason why the tune of the Pakistani national anthem was made before the actual national anthem was written was because some head of state was about to come to Pakistan and something was needed to be played. So overnight Ahmed Chagla came up with the tune which was selected as the tune for the national anthem of Pakistan. Later on hafeez jalhandari’s poetry was selected to be the national anthem. So i guess what jagan nath wrote was something that was only played at the time Pakistan was made on radio Pakistan and was never really accepted as the national anthem of Pakistan.

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very interesting info indeed. if only we had more jagannaths and mantos around.

off topic, i have heard a couple of generations ago in punjab, during prepartition days, it used to be hard to tell anyones religion from appearances - everyone wore the same style turban including the sikhs (not the current day one), wore the "dhotti/lungi", shalwar kameez wasnt too much in fashion. not sure how much of this is true but it does appear that punjab then didnt have much problem with religious diversity.

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So whats the big deal?

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Hindus don't know how to write poetry...they are not literarily nor lyrically inclined....I am glad we switch to Hafiz Jallundhari

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h… ha… ha…
that was so cute. fati

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Well, given that he moved to India after writing Pakistan's anthem, it represented a slight anomaly to have your national anthem written by a citizen of another country that you have a territorial dispute with. I bet that played a role in it.

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cute?!
no no fati is not cute when it comes to politics and economics. :nono:this is a very serious matter :fraudia:

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Ive also heard that for some time Iqbal's "Lab pe aati hai duaa" was also given the status of national anthem...? is that right? many schools still make children recite it aftre the Natl anthem today in morn assemblies, probably not just because it's a nice dua... there seem to be more reasons for the importance given to it...

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Graet!!!

Now open a thread on Devendra Jogirnnath Mandal,the first acting president and law minister of Paksitan ,who was also a hindu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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Hurray! now we have someone to blame for the institutionalize failure!

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Done well :K: :smiley:

This should be the way to express gratitude to the nations heroes…

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wats the big deal

A Hindu wrote Pakistan’s first anthem?

I did not know this until today. Anybody knows why it was abondened for the current one that is really very hard to understand because of persian words? Can someone produce what the anthem was? The artice below have only a couple of verses.

http://www.hindu.com/2005/06/19/stories/2005061907400100.htm

** A Hindu wrote Pakistan’s first national anthem ** Luv Puri
* How Jinnah gotUrdu-knowingJagannath Azadto write the song. *

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** Mohammad Ali Jinnah **
JAMMU: “Aey sarzameen-i-pak Zarrey terey hein aaj sitaron sey tabnak Roshan heh kehkashan sey kahin aaj teri khak.”(“Oh land of Pakistan, each particle of yours is being illuminated by stars. Even your dust has been brightened like a rainbow.”‘)
These are lines from Pakistan’s first national anthem — written by Jagannath Azad, a Lahore-based Hindu, acceding to the wishes of Mohammad Ali Jinnah, the country’s founder and first Governor-General.
As the debate about Jinnah’s secular August 1947 vision of his country rages on, this little known fact will be of public interest. Days before his death last year, Azad recalled, in an interview to this correspondent, the circumstances under which he was asked by Jinnah to write Pakistan’s national anthem: "In August 1947, when mayhem had struck the whole Indian subcontinent, I was in Lahore working in a literary newspaper. All my relatives had left for India and for me to think of leaving Lahore was painful. I decided to take a chance and stay on for some time. My Muslim friends requested me to stay on and took responsibility of my safety. On the morning of August 9, 1947, there was a message from Pakistan’s first Governor-General, Mohammad Ali Jinnah. It was through a friend working in Radio Lahore who called me to his office. He told me Quaid-e-Azam wants you to write a national anthem for Pakistan.' I told them it would be difficult to pen it in five days and my friend pleaded that as the request has come from the tallest leader of Pakistan, I should consider his request. On much persistence, I agreed." Why him? "The answer to this question," Azad said in the interview, "has to be understood by recalling the inaugural speech of Jinnah Sahib as Governor General of Pakistan. He said: You will find that in the course of time, Hindus will cease to be Hindus and Muslims will cease to be Muslims, not in the religious sense because that is the personal faith of each individual, but in the political sense as citizens of the state.’ It is for historians and analysts to judge what made Jinnah Sahib make this speech. But clearly as understood by the speech was the fact he wanted to create a secular Pakistan, despite the fact the whole continent, particularly the Punjab province, had seen a human tragedy in the form of communal massacres. Even I was surprised when my colleagues in Radio Pakistan, Lahore approached me. I asked them why Jinnah Sahib wanted me to write the anthem. They confided in me that `Quaid-e-Azam wanted the anthem to be written by an Urdu-knowing Hindu.’ Through this, I believe Jinnah Sahib wanted to sow the roots of secularism in a Pakistan where intolerance had no place."
The national anthem written by Jagannath Azad was sent to Jinnah, who approved it in a few hours. It was sung for the first time on Pakistan Radio, Karachi (which was then the capital of Pakistan).
Meanwhile the situation in both east and west Punjab was becoming worse by the day. The same set of friends told Azad in September 1947 that even they would not be able to provide him protection, and that it would be better for him to migrate to India. He followed their advice.
The song written by Jagannath Azad served as Pakistan’s national anthem for a year and a half. After Jinnah’s death, a song written by the Urdu poet Hafiz Jallundhari was chosen as the national anthem.

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Well the current National Anthem may be hard to understand for Today’s generation but back in time when it was created , Persian was easily understood by most of average literate people . So understating an anthem with some Persian words in it , wasn’t as serious issue as it may sounds now .

The more important fact is that shortly after writing the so called first Pakistani national anthem, Professor Azad migrated to India, where he mainly worked as information officer successively for the Press Information Bureau, the Ministry of Food, and the Ministry of Works and Housing. ( Daily times , 2005 ) . Now would it be nice if we Pakistanis , as a proud nation , keep singing an anthem written a person , wasn’t courteous enough to make Pakistan his home land ? I just leave you to answer this !

Btw on Sunday, June 19, 2005 , the same article was also published by Daily Times Pakistan , the title was ‘Jagan Nath Azad wrote Pakistan’s first anthem’ . I don’t know who copied who here but it was moronic to title it as A Hindu wrote Pakistan’s first national anthem ! Anyway it has been a matter of talk for some time now . And whether your man Jinnah wanted to sow the roots of secularism in a Pakistan through this anthem as claimed by author , I have no clue but on same hand I think the Anthem written by Abdul Hafiz Jalandari is a master piece as applaued by Mr chagala ( who made the tune ) by saying ‘ Tum nay mayra Murdaa kharab hona say bacha lia ‘

Reference

DAILY TIMES,2005, *Jagan Nath Azad wrote Pakistan’s first anthem . *Available online: http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_19-6-2005_pg7_31 last visited 21/08/2007].

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"The Hindu" also says this:-

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The song written by Jagannath Azad served as Pakistan's national anthem for a year and a half. After Jinnah's death, a song written by the Urdu poet Hafiz Jallundhari was chosen as the national anthem.
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indian and BD NA written by rabindra nath tagore:)

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Why is it such a problem if a hindu (pakistani) wrote the first national anthem? Why is so hard to believe? Pakistani hindus cannot be loyal to Pakistan?

One of our supreme court justice is hindu. everytime he is going to pass a verdict, are we going to question his loyalty to the nation.

Harcharan Singh, a sikh, few years ago became commissioned officer in the Pakistan Army. Will his patrioism be questioned all the time

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Anyone (without consulting their parents or books) can answer--as to who composed the music of Pakistan's National Anthem? and how many were there in that chorus?

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R.N.Tagore wrote Bangla Desh' NA ??????? he must have revisited this world! unless they chose it from one of his poetic works...because a Bengali he was.. like his grand-daughter Sharmila.

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Its not a problem if a Hindu or a Sikh writes national anthem or joins the army, the problem is when he/she closes all the channels to convert to Islam- Cowsajee, Abdus Salam and Danish Kaneria didn’t choose to and its ok but look at Yusuf Youhana’s batting averages before and after he converted- stats themselves speak in favor of conversion for the remaining non-muslims of Pakistan :jhanda: You are welcome to to live and take citizenship of Pakistan but with time you must explore the options of converting to the faith. Just my 2 cents.