Re: 70 militants killed in operation in Pakistan
Chotay kadum pehlay...let's teach talib sisters how to read first.
Re: 70 militants killed in operation in Pakistan
wake up, do you think you can teach talibs anything??? they know everything...
I will ask all of you pseudo intellectuals after the operation is over if the military operation - real or fake... achieves the objectives of peace and reduction or elimination of Taliban. Or on the contrary it paves the way for alienation of all Pashtoons and creation of free Pakhtunistan after an independent Baluchistan.
Many of you seculars who are delighted at the war , whom we do not even know from ids and avatars whether you are Pakistanis or its enemies, will just say no word when things go worse...
Lets hope things get better and Pakistan remains intact and not become Punjabis against Pakhtoons...and Baluchis.
The military operation has been going on for a while not only in NWFP but also in Afghanistan. I see no light at the end of the tunnel. The people at the receiving end of the collateral damage have only become more radicalized and anti-Pakistan.. so what makes some think that after the army operation ordinary Pakistanis will be able to have a nice picnic in Kalaam.
Chotay kadum pehlay...let's teach talib sisters how to read first.
Teach that to your traitor Altaf and than talk about Pakistan.
I will ask all of you pseudo intellectuals after the operation is over if the military operation - real or fake... achieves the objectives of peace and reduction or elimination of Taliban. Or on the contrary it paves the way for alienation of all Pashtoons and creation of free Pakhtunistan after an independent Baluchistan.
Many of you seculars who are delighted at the war , whom we do not even know from ids and avatars whether you are Pakistanis or its enemies, will just say no word when things go worse...
Lets hope things get better and Pakistan remains intact and not become Punjabis against Pakhtoons...and Baluchis.
The military operation has been going on for a while not only in NWFP but also in Afghanistan. I see no light at the end of the tunnel. The people at the receiving end of the collateral damage have only become more radicalized and anti-Pakistan.. so what makes some think that after the army operation ordinary Pakistanis will be able to have a nice picnic in Kalaam.
So Whats the solution.. the govt did the peace deal, Nizam-e-Adl regulation was approved and incorporated, then what??? taliban never did their part of the bargain.. they never laid their arms down, instead they went to surrounding areas, started their activities, started to show their gun-power.. what is this???
How come anyone can do a deal with a liar or a person who do not fulfill his side of the bargain... why Sufi Mohammad was not able to dis-arm the militants??? what was the motive behind it??? all blame goes to this Sufi Mohammad, and i think he should read Quran and Ahadees about fulfilling the promises and following the agreements.. what happend to his knowledge on this part... is this his shariah in which breaking a promise is allowed....
No body knows the out-come of the military operation, Military has to strike hard and they have time till July or August mid to achieve their targets.. let see what they can come up with...
Re: 70 militants killed in operation in Pakistan
^do you really feel that the govt. that came to power with the NRO keeps promises and is in Pakistan's favor? What makes you think they are not traitors? I am not siding with Taliban... I am just talking about the situation on ground. Its not improving.. surely there has to be some way. Where do Taliban get their weapons from? What are the intelligence agencies doing?
Pakistan didn't have to reach this position.... if Taliban have so much influence in those regions, that means our state failed and we should be talking about why it failed and not just thinking about eye washes such as nizam e adl and military operations.
Re: 70 militants killed in operation in Pakistan
^^^You're not siding with them you're just cheering for them. There is one govt & it came through power through vote not bullet & that is the big different between Taliban & the govt...a concept you would never understand.
^^^You're not siding with them you're just cheering for them. There is one govt & it came through power through vote not bullet & that is the big different between Taliban & the govt.
You mean vote = NRO
Can people be so naive.
Re: 70 militants killed in operation in Pakistan
Look guys, Taliban are doing criminal acts by doing whatever they are doing... but the way things are going... they are only getting stronger. Do whatever, cheer whomever, seems like whatever has been done since one year by the NRO govt. Pakistan is going down the drain.
History has shown, army action never solves problems, it exacerbates them.
I remember when Bugti was being killed people were happy that a traitor is being killed. But the result is....... Baluchis, most of them today want independence.
So .... do we see a pattern.....
Just gong in and bombarding people will not eliminate Taliban.. it will produce more.
Do not see from our side, for once try to understand what people there in those regions would be thinking,
Teach that to your traitor Altaf and than talk about Pakistan.
Altaf is not involved in the operation in Buner.
And yes things will get worse, a lot worse before they will even appear to improve. That's not the point, the point is that talib violence and threats to the common people are unacceptable and will expedite the demise of pakistan. Their is no option any longer but to fight the taliban - had we some sense we would not have created them in the first place or limited their power from the beginning. But we are stuck in the current situation and have no choice but to fight after their lies were exposed.
Look guys, Taliban are doing criminal acts by doing whatever they are doing... but the way things are going... they are only getting stronger. Do whatever, cheer whomever, seems like whatever has been done since one year by the NRO govt. Pakistan is going down the drain.
History has shown, army action never solves problems, it exacerbates them.
I remember when Bugti was being killed people were happy that a traitor is being killed. But the result is....... Baluchis, most of them today want independence.
So .... do we see a pattern.....
Just gong in and bombarding people will not eliminate Taliban.. it will produce more.
Do not see from our side, for once try to understand what people there in those regions would be thinking,
History also shows that you need the will and the moral courage to fight a war against tyrants (see WWII). 100,000 talib thugs are not sitting in Buner, but 500 or so. It makes them easier to melt away, but also makes it easier to isolate them if war is fought correctly and followed up with political and economic soltuions.
History also shows that you need the will and the moral courage to fight a war against tyrants (see WWII). 100,000 talib thugs are not sitting in Buner, but 500 or so. It makes them easier to melt away, but also makes it easier to isolate them if war is fought correctly and followed up with political and economic soltuions.
Sounds very good in writing, but what actually happens we have been seeing since many years.
Time will tell, how successful the strategy is, if there is any.
Hope at the end of the dark night, Pakistan is there to talk about.
Re: 70 militants killed in operation in Pakistan
Success will only happen if the pakistan military and people find the will and courage to do the right thing. If not, we are indeed headed towards the dustbin of history.
^do you really feel that the govt. that came to power with the NRO keeps promises and is in Pakistan's favor? What makes you think they are not traitors? I am not siding with Taliban... I am just talking about the situation on ground. Its not improving.. surely there has to be some way. Where do Taliban get their weapons from? What are the intelligence agencies doing?
Pakistan didn't have to reach this position.... if Taliban have so much influence in those regions, that means our state failed and we should be talking about why it failed and not just thinking about eye washes such as nizam e adl and military operations.
The govt ( Zardari) didn't kept his promises and the whole world has seen what happend to him.... everyone is saying that they cannot trust zardari.. he has lost his credibility... so Zardari is tasting the fruit..
Now Sufi Mohammad had golden opportunity, he should have laid down the arms, as per the terms and condition, and could have built a ideal muslim society where justice is avaible to each and every individual.. this system might hav replicated by itself to all the country... but Sufi Mohammad was either a fool or he had other intentions / orders to follow... so he broke the promise and this very much damaged his credibility, and brought him to the level of Zardari.. a guy who is struggling hard to get into power.. by any mean... just lust of power... by selling Islam...
I agree taliban got more expousre then they deserved, media has potrayed them as hero or a demon which cannot be defeated.. they are nothing more than ordinary thugs.. we have dealt with these kind thugs before.. remember operation in Karachi.. where MQM was playing the role of Taliban.. so is same thing.. lets hope that our army can give some relief to the locals. this is the season for them to make money.. i know for sure that, Swat and surronding areas heavily depends tourism, but given the current situation, where the area has been taken hostage by some thugs in the name of Islam, i am sure Swaties are going to suffer big time...
You mean vote = NRO
Can people be so naive.
No to redirect topic, but NRO benefited Zardari, but his party won the elections & as a result he was elected president legitimately. Taliban, on the other hand, have no legitimacy. They're bunch of terrorist thugs who have hijacked the Pakistan's tourist spots & are trying to impose their brand of Sharia on area populatin which has nothing to do with Islam or Muslims. If you can't see the difference you're willing blind & can't be helped.
The govt ( Zardari) didn't kept his promises and the whole world has seen what happend to him.... everyone is saying that they cannot trust zardari.. he has lost his credibility... so Zardari is tasting the fruit..
Now Sufi Mohammad had golden opportunity, he should have laid down the arms, as per the terms and condition, and could have built a ideal muslim society where justice is avaible to each and every individual.. this system might hav replicated by itself to all the country... but Sufi Mohammad was either a fool or he had other intentions / orders to follow... so he broke the promise and this very much damaged his credibility, and brought him to the level of Zardari.. a guy who is struggling hard to get into power.. by any mean... just lust of power... by selling Islam...
I agree taliban got more expousre then they deserved, media has potrayed them as hero or a demon which cannot be defeated.. they are nothing more than ordinary thugs.. we have dealt with these kind thugs before.. remember operation in Karachi.. where MQM was playing the role of Taliban.. so is same thing.. lets hope that our army can give some relief to the locals. this is the season for them to make money.. i know for sure that, Swat and surronding areas heavily depends tourism, but given the current situation, where the area has been taken hostage by some thugs in the name of Islam, i am sure Swaties are going to suffer big time...
I agree. Actually, their motives became quiet clear as soon as they declared that once Qazi courts will get established, their first job will be to execute the people who had opposed them. This clearly indicated that there is more to the show then religion here.