What a terrible tragedy, and over a simple labor dispute…
**Twenty one people have been burned to death amid a row over jobs at a tea plantation in eastern India, police say. **](CNN.com - Deadly row at India tea plantation - Nov. 6, 2003)
That is just sick....
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*Originally posted by CM: *
That is just sick....
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Sick yes, but this horrible violence and tragedy happened after locals protested over the hiring of three "outsiders" as workers. It's probably a strong indication how disintegrated some parts of Indian society are?
Oh really!
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*Originally posted by Malik73: *
Sick yes, but this horrible violence and tragedy happened after locals protested over the hiring of three "outsiders" as workers. It's probably a strong indication how disintegrated some parts of Indian society are?
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Oh well atleast try to be fair. I mean you telling me that on the basis of one violent incident Indian labour can be stamped militant?
I don't see any indication of "militants" in his words, where'd you get that idea?
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*Originally posted by Changez_like: *
I don't see any indication of "militants" in his words, where'd you get that idea?
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I got the idea from the way the statement said...
"It's probably a strong indication how disintegrated some parts of Indian society are?"
BTW, militant here is not the militant of OBL, but more the militant of Class action and the people's revolution, or did I read too much into the cheap potshot?
India sort yourself out!
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*Originally posted by Chota: *
India sort yourself out!
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Sorry Saaaaaaaaar!
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*Originally posted by Toddytapper: *
...did I read too much into the cheap potshot?
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Mostly likely you did read too much, perhaps even between the words, but I don't know if it can be called "cheap potshot".
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*Originally posted by Changez_like: *
Mostly likely you did read too much, perhaps even between the words, but I don't know if it can be called "cheap potshot".
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Of course he read to much into it, and wants obviously to rant about Muslims to get away from the quite simple question I asked.
Why so much violence and killings over the employment of a few "outside workers"? If the people of that town/area are so resentful of presumably some fellow Indian's? getting jobs in their town then there is a serious disintegration of some parts of Indian society.
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Of course he read to much into it, and wants obviously to rant about Muslims to get away from the quite simple question I asked.
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Dude,
Kindly point out one post where I have ranted about Muslims....My biggest complaint against Muslims (Indian) is that they do not pay too mush emphasis on getting their kids educated or improving the overall quality of life.....
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*Originally posted by Malik73: *
Why so much violence and killings over the employment of a few "outside workers"? If the people of that town/area are so resentful of presumably some fellow Indian's? getting jobs in their town then there is a serious disintegration of some parts of Indian society.
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I dunno if I should even answer the above. Why is this an India specific phenomenon? It is not. Prejudice and short tempers over sensitive issues happen all over teh world. It is just another one of those.
it is like blaming all muslim countries for bombing redcross, un headqarters
in iraq and bombing in saudi arabia .
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*Originally posted by rvikz: *
it is like blaming all muslim countries for bombing redcross, un headqarters
in iraq and bombing in saudi arabia .
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Why are you so paranoid? Did anyone bring religion into this thread? No one has asked whether this is typical of Hindu's, but rather what it shows about certain parts of India, and local people's attitudes towards "outsiders".
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Why are you so paranoid? Did anyone bring religion into this thread? No one has asked whether this is typical of Hindu's, but rather what it shows about certain parts of India, and local people's attitudes towards "outsiders".
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gURU,
You did bring up religion in your earlier response to me..check above...memory seems to be short.
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*Originally posted by Toddytapper: *
gURU,
You did bring up religion in your earlier response to me..check above...memory seems to be short.
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We have another paranoid Indian. Read my post carefully, and you will notice I was asking you to keep religion out of this discussion, this after you mentioned "militancy" which I did not, and when you talked about OBL etc.
Next time I suggest you read what people have posted, and not jump to conclusions, based on an inability to answer a pretty straight foward question that I have consistently asked throughout this thread. So far not one Indian has been able to answer this question, which is pretty telling I must say.
in democracy v give respect to all ppl n some times it may turn violent.
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We have another paranoid Indian. Read my post carefully, and you will notice I was asking you to keep religion out of this discussion, this after you mentioned "militancy" which I did not, and when you talked about OBL etc.
Next time I suggest you read what people have posted, and not jump to conclusions, based on an inability to answer a pretty straight foward question that I have consistently asked throughout this thread. So far not one Indian has been able to answer this question, which is pretty telling I must say.
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Your question was Why so much violence and killings over the employment of a few "outside workers"?
It was answered when I said
"I mean you telling me that on the basis of one violent incident Indian labour can be stamped militant?"
I assumed you would understand what I meant. That not being the case. let me elaborate.
This was one lousy incident. Generally most of the one billion or so people lived through day without killing anyone or being killed. Now if we take the town in question, I think this was one of the few violent incidents that happened that day. Now on the whole the rate of violence can be compared on average to any other country in the region. I dunno but many people around here have the statistics.
This was why I said that one stray incident does not make the whole of India wary of "outsiders". I mean I thought that kind of an answer was the norm on this forum.
Of course, parts of Indian society are disgruntled. I mean take any country and show me 100% happiness.
So what are you trying to prove? I mean you were trying to raise a critical argument to prove your point, but what was the point?
Now if you want me to talk about all the disgruntled peoples of India and the various militant outfits they have set up open a sepearate thread there are quite a few of them... ULFA, PWG Naxalites, LTTE activity, etc the list goes on and on.
what exactly is the relationship of democracy with this violence?