14 Masoomeen

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Good question X-com.

These are people of arrogance and followers of their own desires. They will only interpret quran and seek the interpretation that is suitable to their beliefs so they might deceive others.

They leave out the most beloved people in prophets life and include the ones that are suitable to them. What a shame.

Surah 3 verse # 7.

It is He who has sent down to you, [o Mohammad], the book; in it are verses precise - they are the foundation of the Book - and others unspecific. As for those in whose hearts is deviation [from truth], they will follow that of it which is unspecific, seeking discord and seeking an interpretation [suitable to them]. And no one knows its [true] interpretation except Allah. But those firm in knowledge say, “we believe in it. All [of it] is from our Lord.” And no one will be reminded except those of understanding,

See what Allah says about them, they have no understanding.

Shah Jahan, as I said in my other post, you are nothing but a BS artist.

MOD: sorry about this post, couldn’t help it.

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PS: Zalim, there is no point in debating with heedless and illogical people. They will never listen to you. Allah says in the quran about them. Arrogance has gone into them, ALlah has put walls all around them, they will never hear, see the truth of quran or the truth about the family of the prophet. Look at mister Sherazz, fabricated hadiths in his signature…how low can people go, I wonder.

Take it easy.

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Many converted to save their life and no wonder when time came they ran away from the battle fields.....

Jub Koi na thaa
tou haider-e-Karrar thaa

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so,anyone care to answer my question (or am i going too fast here?)

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x com r u saying abu bakr was the first muslim? is this suppose to be joke..jokes have their own section please

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sheraaz, dont turn it around plz.
look at my quoted material and OBSERVE!
where have i stated that he was teh first??? but he was before ALI....so try and answer teh question not twist it all up....

no jokes as far as i can see.....

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if your input is related, then post. otherwise keep quite. why are you talking about hazrat abubakar or anybody else. The topic was 14 masoomeens

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Azam, pls read x_communists post.... she just wants to know why hazrat abubaker siddique radiallah ta'lah anhah's name was not included in that statement.

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[quote]
Originally posted by Azam:
if your input is related, then post. otherwise keep quite. why are you talking about hazrat abubakar or anybody else. The topic was 14 masoomeens
[/quote]

welcome back shair30/coolguy.

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Hey wahabis, Abu bakar was good at coming first. I think Abu bakar was the first to run off the battle too.

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calm down paglu…ur kinda going off topic…my question hasnt STILL been answered…

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as for the one who objected to me going off at my question posted above…topic–azam–relax buddy, take a good look

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so wehre are you ppl…im still kinda waiting bout my question about ABu Bakr …

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Yesterday is history,
Tommorow is a mystery,
Today is a gift,
That’s why we call it PRESENT!

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I this forum.. it might bemore appropiate to say,

ya moderator's madad!!

close this pointless thread..

now whos gonna tell me to grow up and not to talk if i don't have anything important to say?

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If you think its pointless i don't see why you feel the need to reply.

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i'm just following the unsaid rules. post whatever, however non relating to the topic.

What i'm not doing is 'selectively' ommiting keywords from hadith and changing (or trying to) and altering their intended message.

hmm. i guess i just posted something very relavent to this thread.

go figure,

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He Was ONE of the first BUT H.Ali was before him As first the Prophet gatherd His closest of kin and revealed to them his divine mission. The rest all Laughed and Insulted the Prophet! The FIRST Three wre H.Ali(from child or Men) BIBI Khatija (from Women) and the prophets freed slave Zayd!

Abu was NOT a related to the prophet BUT he was the first from Out of the family to acept Islam!

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thankyou shahjahan, but i think this should have been mentioned above. not because you dont give him the same respect, but because its solid history that you and i both accept....thanks again.