10% Zakah instead of 2 1/2%?

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Originally posted by faceup:
**Sentinel,

Did not like what I had to write about Islam based on Sahih hadeeths?

Why do you then allow their followers to attack others who chose not to follow Islam based on those Sahih?**
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Message not clear. Please rephrase.

If I understand correctly, you are supporting those who do not follow the Sunnah. This is not the place for that discussion, if you wish to start it open a new chain.

Rabbeshrah lee sadree; wa yassirlee amree; yafqahoo qaulee.

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Just out of curiosity, how much zakah do you pay, might i ask?<<<<

Husnain, As Ahmadjee mentioned that generally Ahmadis pay 1/16th of their income, but a lot of Ahmadis pay a lot more than that. I don’t want to brag about how much I pay, but my brother (a PhD Chemist) has devoted his life to propagate Ahmadiyat (this was after he was paying over 90% of his income as Zakat – his only possessions are a Bicycle and two pairs of Shalwar Kameez), so let’s not ask how much Zakat Ahmadis pay. I personally spend half of my income on gambling on track or horse racing (I considered that Zakat as well). I love horses and I am glad that my income goes towards their welfare.

Husnain, since you asked me how much I pay, I think it is only fair if I asked you how much you pay.

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Ahmadjee, might i ask how much zakah you pay?

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LOL! Husnain bhai, I think the question didn't come out right. Wouldn't that be a little too personal to ask?

I am a 'gareeb admi' who goes hand to mouth! But whatever my little saving is, I pay zaka'at on it @ the rate of 2.5% - if that was the intent of your question! :~)

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2.5% and thats it....
the Quran has no mention of the amount....
the 2.5% is stated in a Sahih Hadith....
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Here are some interesting quotes from the Bible to shed a little more light on from where todays 'mainstream muslims' get the idea of quantifying what is to be given in Allah's way.

[Lev 27:30] "All the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land or of the fruit of the trees, is the LORDs; it is holy to the LORD.

[Lev 27:31] If a man wishes to redeem any of his tithe, he shall add a fifth to it.

[Lev 27:32] And all the tithe of herds and flocks, every tenth animal of all that pass under the herdsman's staff, shall be holy to the LORD.

[Lev 27:33] A man shall not inquire whether it is good or bad, neither shall he exchange it; and if he exchanges it, then both it and that for which it is exchanged shall be holy; it shall not be redeemed."

[Lev 27:3] then your valuation of a male from twenty years old up to sixty years old shall be fifty shekels of silver, according to the shekel of the sanctuary.

[Lev 27:4] If the person is a female, your valuation shall be thirty shekels.

[Lev 27:5] If the person is from five years old up to twenty years old, your valuation shall be for a male twenty shekels, and for a female ten shekels.

[Lev 27:6] If the person is from a month old up to five years old, your valuation shall be for a male five shekels of silver, and for a female your valuation shall be three shekels of silver.

[Lev 27:7] And if the person is sixty years old and upward, then your valuation for a male shall be fifteen shekels, and for a female ten shekels.

PakistaniAbroad: 'mainstream muslims' have a similar table for religious taxes for adults and children. Every year before the Eid prayer, they rush to pay their 'zakat fitrah' for each member of their household. This is taken from the Bible - Leviticus - and they pay these “zakat” through their respective priests at the nearest mosques.

They also pay “zakat” on the land and houses. Again this is taken from the Bible:

[Lev 27:14] "When a man dedicates his house to be holy to the LORD, the priest shall value it as either good or bad; as the priest values it, so it shall stand.

[Lev 27:15] And if he who dedicates it wishes to redeem his house, he shall add a fifth of the valuation in money to it, and it shall be his.

[Lev 27:16] "If a man dedicates to the LORD part of the land which is his by inheritance, then your valuation shall be according to the seed for it; a sowing of a homer of barley shall be valued at fifty shekels of silver.

[Lev 27:17] If he dedicates his field from the year of jubilee, it shall stand at your
full valuation;

[Lev 27:26] "But a firstling of animals, which as a firstling belongs to the LORD, no man may dedicate; whether ox or sheep, it is the LORDs.

[Lev 27:27] And if it is an unclean animal, then he shall buy it back at your valuation, and add a fifth to it; or, if it is not redeemed, it shall be sold at your valuation.

[Lev 27:28] "But no devoted thing that a man devotes to the LORD, of anything that he has, whether of man or beast, or of his inherited field, shall be sold or redeemed; every devoted thing is most holy to the LORD.

PakistaniAbroad: Compare this with the simple statement in the Qur'an.

[al-Baqarah 2:219].... They ask thee how much they are to spend; Say: "What is beyond your needs." Thus doth God Make clear to you His Signs: In order that ye may consider

PakistaniAbroad: will 'they' ever consider?

There is No Spoon

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PakiAbroad do know that there is a difference between the spendings....
Sadaqa is different from Zakat, Zakat-al-Fitr is different from regular Zakat....
each of them has its own importance....
"spending beyond the needs" is for Sadaqa....
2.5% is for Zakat....
and Zakat-al-Fitr is what muslims MUST pay before the prayer of Eid-al-Fitr (ofcourse i doubt that u ever pray that cause its not mentioned ni Quran and u dont have any Eid cuz its not mentioned in Quran either)....

and NO they DONT come from Bible....
it is known to Muslims from Sahih Hadith....

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My dear armughal.. so many zakaats.. so little time

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Pray tell me where you invented all these Zakat-al-Fitra etc from?? of course ‘Sahih Hadiths’ right??.. My post was to illustrate where the ‘Sahih Hadiths’ get their inspiration from.

And to set matters straight 2:219 talks about spending the obligatory charity

The “Sadaqaat” is nothing but obligatory… it’s not optional.

[at-Taubah 9:60] Alms (as sadaqaatu)are for the poor and the needy, and those employed to administer the (funds); for those whose hearts have been (recently) reconciled (to Truth); for those in bondage and in debt; in the cause of God; and for the wayfarer: (thus is it) ordained by God (fareezatan), and God is full of knowledge and wisdom.

PakistaniAbroad: Should be clear now that “Sadaqaat” are not ‘optional’ but one and the same as the obligatory charity being talked about in 2:215 and 2:219

There is No Spoon

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When you write about something in Islam, do not write about what you think or guess. Say it with daleel. It is better not to say anything than to say something wrong and mislead those who do not know. Zakah was implemented through the Qur'an and quantified through sunnah. Where did you get it that Umar (radhi Allaho anh) started the rate. What was it when the Qur'an said atuzakah

well brother, i do not say that it was not implemented by the quran. i say that the quran did not implement a rate for it. does "atu zakah" really mean 2.5 %.

What is the difference between Islami and sharai?

i mean not the kind of govt. that the taliban had. or lets say in saudia where it is sharai but not islami