Re: 1 Indian Girl, Many Arabs
I don't understand why India and Pakistan don't make the concept of dowry illegal?
In Pakistan, dont the men give the gifts to the women, isnt it India where there is the dowry problem?
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im supposed to believe that these Arabs (heirs of Oil fortunes) are scurrying around the streets of hydrabad (or wherever) looking for street urchins to make their wives?
Re: 1 Indian Girl, Many Arabs
*No maa'm it is for satisfying their lust by enticing girls from poor muslim families for a few thousand rupees. Back in Arabia, they would probably be spanked red for indulging in such promiscous behaviour. *
*It is quite unfortunate that people continue to live in stone age and leave no stone unturned in stating that it is the oldest trade of the society. *
Tonight watch a programme on CNN about 'land of missing children'..it is about India. Countless innocent girls are forcibly pushed into prostitution and traded from one brothel in Calcutta to another in Bombay. Customers..educated as well as uneducated...only the style and money exchange varies.
Re: 1 Indian Girl, Many Arabs
nope pakistan mein bhi there’s jahez/dowry. The guys family does give the girl new stuff like jewelery and clothing (called barri), and some jewelery ont eh wedding night (the moonh-dikhai). There’s also haq meher, the money a guy gives to his wife. But that’s part of our religion. But what the girl side gives is nothing compared to wat the guys side gives. Usually the girls family has to give all this stuff to her in-laws, suits for the groom’s mom, dad, brothers, bhabhis, sisters, grandparents, etc etc. Also, the girls family buys alot of ghar ka samaan, dishes, furniture, to be put in her inlaws home.
I dunno if in Indian famililes, the guy gives the girls anything, but i know the girls family has to do all that. That’s why it’s understandable why female infanticide is such a big thing there, parents cannot afford to buy all that jahez for their daughtesr, and for majority of families, not buying that much jahez is not an option, because then her inlaws may treat her badly (same goes in Pakistan). It’s nto fair and it’s not right but that’s how ti is.
Do visit the wedding forum, you’ll learn alot 
Re: 1 Indian Girl, Many Arabs
im supposed to believe that these Arabs (heirs of Oil fortunes) are scurrying around the streets of hydrabad (or wherever) looking for street urchins to make their wives?
Oh common. Looking for brides? They're looking for booty. They're one night stands sanctioned by idiot-mullah-types. Raping a 14 year old is made a whole lot easier when you have a bearded man wave around a Quran.
Yes, that's right. One night stands can be Islamic. If you play your mullahs right. Yeehaw!
Re: 1 Indian Girl, Many Arabs
So, your motives of starting this thread are to criticize Arabs using the ‘exploitation of poor/young girls’ example.
Instead of condemning the ‘exploitation of poor/young girls’ using the Arab example.
If it was the latter, then as mentioned before, Thailand would have been a good starting point.
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Aww, isn't that cute. Slim Mo is getting all worked up about defending them dirty Arabs. That's not racist. Sex with a 14 year old? That IS dirty.
The issue Mercenary brings up is two fold. 1) A critique of Islam-to-hire 2) The condemnation of Arabs raping Muslim girls.
I don't hear of any Christian wasps using the cover of Christianity to have one night stands with Thai prostitutes. What I do hear is Muslim men using religion daddies (pimps) to have one night stands. Thus, the problem is both Arabic and Islamic.
Halalified child prostitution. That is the issue.
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No, I did not defend anyone, If an Arab marries only to gratify himself, under the guise of nikaah, and using his wealth, then I agree with the following people the report mentioned:
Most Qazis solemnise these sham marriages in complete violation of Islamic principles of nikaah and talaaq.
...and I wholeheartedly condemn it.
The point I made was if we are concerned about the exploitation of the young and poor, then there are bigger fish to fry.
plz try not to be patronizing towards me, no need for it.
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Halalified child prostitution. That is the issue.
So in your opinion, Nikaah is legalized prostitution? What does that make you?
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So in your opinion, Nikaah is legalized prostitution?
How are you comparing this to a Nikah? The intent to marry vs the intent to have a one night stand?
The only similarity is a bearded magician waving around a quran. Other than that the two are very different.
Re: 1 Indian Girl, Many Arabs
How are you comparing this to a Nikah? The intent to marry vs the intent to have a one night stand?
The only similarity is a bearded magician waving around a quran. Other than that the two are very different.
A Nikah is a Nikah and how do you know it's for a one night stand? What makes you the religious authority about the beliefs of others...It's like a Hindu being outraged at Islamic polygamy as being wrong...
And where did you see a bearded magician waving a Quran around? Is that somewhere in the story or does this image stem from your jaundiced and prejudiced views against Arabs?
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A Nikah is a Nikah and how do you know it's for a one night stand? What makes you the religious authority about the beliefs of others...It's like a Hindu being outraged at Islamic polygamy as being wrong...
What? Are you implying this is in anyway acceptable? A muslim is telling a muslim this is wrong. You seem to disagree.
A nikah is a nikah, but this is an abuse. A nikah is not "In the name of God, the gracious and most merciful I sign my nikah with the intent of leaving a poor 14 year old after intercourse." Or is it?
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While the waving stems from my imagination, the quasi mullahs/pimps/magicians are fully aware of their actions. This is no "woops, we let an arab get away with a one night stand". It's a "yes mister, we will marry young girl for you. have sexy time. come back soon. here my card. we do again."
"A complex union of their parents and Islamic clerics to yield to the preliminary probes of the Arab...The high priests of the All India Muslim Personal Law Board and the fatwa brigade of Darul Uloom Deoband...seem to have shut their eyes to this phenomenon that is aided and abetted by Hyderabad's Qazis or clerics."
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Is that somewhere in the story or does this image stem from your jaundiced and prejudiced views against Arabs?
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What exactly are you arguing anyway. That I despise the treatment of South Asians at the hand of Arabs? That I have a prejudiced view against them for the way they have and will continue to use the cloak of Islam to mistreat us? That's no argument, I'll say it blatantly - I do despise the Arabs that exploit us.
You might not be aware of it, but the abuses committed by Arabs in South Asia are far more dangerous than the abuses committed by westerners in Thailand. Simply because people like you are too quick to deny and defend their Arab brethren.
A long time ago some civil rights nobody said, "nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."