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    Whatsup with them? Why there are always fuming?

  • #2
    They gotta a stick up their @$$

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    • booompatakha
      booompatakha commented
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      They got penis envy. Look it up it's a real thing

  • #3
    Hmmm, pretty good chance I know who you are multi of.
    Anything worth doing is worth doing well.

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    • booompatakha
      booompatakha commented
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      Ok. Then pm me your guess and I will confirm if u are right or wrong. But u must not tell anyone who I am if u r right

    • aqua70
      aqua70 commented
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      Now I am doubting my guess because you seem nice. LOL

    • booompatakha
      booompatakha commented
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      It's ur choice

  • #4
    aqua70 it's not me weirdo lmao

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    • aqua70
      aqua70 commented
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      Boy you never crossed my mind as a candidate for patakhay.

    • third string
      third string commented
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      aqua70 that hurts

    • aqua70
      aqua70 commented
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      Let me apply a hammer to that hurt.

  • #5
    Because you exist.

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    • #6
      I saw this today and it had me rolling...Thought I'd share this with ya'll in this very appropriate thread.
      Some thing third string and his pals would enjoy.

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      “Sometimes the questions are complicated and the answers are simple.”

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      • IsaidwhatIsaid
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        I sense the incel from this lmaooo

    • #7
      ^That's depressing
      I think that if you let me....I'd treat you like the sky
      I'd join up all your insecurities...And bundle all your flaws
      I'd create a new constellation....And search for it endlessly

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      • #8
        Originally posted by Illuminate View Post
        I saw this today and it had me rolling...Thought I'd share this with ya'll in this very appropriate thread.
        Some thing third string and his pals would enjoy.

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        Oh mannn

        This is so true and sums up today's society. It's surprising that you posted this as a woman loool, you're one of the good ones illimunati.

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        • Illuminate
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          Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. It was a meme/exaggeration of events. There are tons of cases where this is flipped and it turns out to be MUCH more worse for the woman.
          Last edited by Illuminate; 2 weeks ago.

        • NaanGuard
          NaanGuard commented
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          Illuminate How so?

        • Illuminate
          Illuminate commented
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          Because NaanGuard, in the desi culture, women get the shorter end of the stick as compared to men during a divorce and it is definitely looked down upon still to this day. Let's say the husband was negligent and did not share the responsibilities of a marriage, it would be much harder for her to get out of that marriage because of societal pressures and if she did manage to get out of it there is still so much stigma around it. Harder for her to re-marry also. In our culture, there is only a small fraction of single guys who would want to marry a divorcee/widow with kids. Also, cheating on spouses in the desi culture is not that widespread either as depicted above. I as a young Pakistani woman wouldn't even think about entertaining someone else and know that other girls wouldn't either, so a woman stepping out of a marriage for another dude happens far less compared to the other way around. Also, no amount of child support/alimony can bring together the family/home which most women dream about having one day. Most women/girls I know value marriage and work really hard to maintain it by trying to excel in their personal and professional lives while fulfilling family relationships and duties to the best of their abilities.

      • #9
        Originally posted by Illuminate View Post
        I saw this today and it had me rolling...Thought I'd share this with ya'll in this very appropriate thread.
        Some thing third string and his pals would enjoy.

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        True!
        I'm Not The Messiah, I'm A Very Naughty Boy

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        • #10
          Equal rights come with equal responsibilities....

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          • #11
            First someone find me a agreeable definition of feminism. And by that I mean one on which even feminists would agree
            We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star." -- Stephen Hawking

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            • NaanGuard
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              Lol...that will never happen!. People out here trying to change the meanings of words these days.

          • #12
            Does the chat room still have a popcorn machine
            Why isn't the Dividend story among the featured threads?

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            • #13
              SID_NY Oxford Dictionary defines it as:
              The advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes.

              -A fairly broad concept which is often interpreted in many different ways.

              What feminism does NOT mean:
              - that women are superior
              -that someone has negative views of men
              -the belief that everyone should be the same

              Below is a piece Yasmin Mogahed wrote on females leading prayer, although not directly related to the topic - a good read.
              Noting there are women who want to work because it brings them joy and fulfillment and are not pressured to do so because of 'financial obligations'. I find her thoughts quite interesting especially how she tied religion into the mix.

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              On March 18, 2005, Amina Wadud led the first female-led jum`ah (Friday) prayer. On that day, women took a huge step towards being more like men. But did we come closer to actualizing our God-given liberation?

              I don?t think so.

              What we so often forget is that God has honored the woman by giving her value in relation to God?not in relation to men. But as Western feminism erases God from the scene, there is no standard left?except men. As a result, the Western feminist is forced to find her value in relation to a man. And in so doing, she has accepted a faulty assumption. She has accepted that man is the standard, and thus a woman can never be a full human being until she becomes just like a man.

              When a man cut his hair short, she wanted to cut her hair short. When a man joined the army, she wanted to join the army. She wanted these things for no other reason than because the ?standard? had it.

              What she didn?t recognize was that God dignifies both men and women in their distinctiveness ? not their sameness. And on March 18, Muslim women made the very same mistake.

              For 1400 years there has been a consensus of the scholars that men are to lead prayer. As a Muslim woman, why does this matter? The one who leads prayer is not spiritually superior in any way. Something is not better just because a man does it. And leading prayer is not better, just because it?s leading. Had it been the role of women or had it been more divine, why wouldn?t the Prophet ﷺ have asked Ayesha or Khadija, or Fatima?the greatest women of all time?to lead? These women were promised heaven?and yet they never led prayer.

              But now, for the first time in 1400 years, we look at a man leading prayer and we think, ?That?s not fair.? We think so although God has given no special privilege to the one who leads. The imam is no higher in the eyes of God than the one who prays behind.

              On the other hand, only a woman can be a mother. And God has given special privilege to a mother. The Prophet ﷺ taught us that heaven lies at the feet of mothers. But no matter what a man does he can never be a mother. So why is that not unfair?

              When asked, ?Who is most deserving of our kind treatment?? the Prophet ﷺ replied, ?Your mother? three times before saying ?your father? only once. Is that sexist? No matter what a man does he will never be able to have the status of a mother.
              And yet, even when God honors us with something uniquely feminine, we are too busy trying to find our worth in reference to men to value it?or even notice. We, too, have accepted men as the standard; so anything uniquely feminine is, by definition, inferior. Being sensitive is an insult, becoming a mother?a degradation. In the battle between stoic rationality (considered masculine) and selfless compassion (considered feminine), rationality reigns supreme.

              As soon as we accept that everything a man has and does is better, all that follows is a knee-jerk reaction: if men have it, we want it too. If men pray in the front rows, we assume this is better, so we want to pray in the front rows too. If men lead prayer, we assume the imam is closer to God, so we want to lead prayer too. Somewhere along the line we?ve accepted the notion that having a position of worldly leadership is some indication of one?s position with God.

              A Muslim woman does not need to degrade herself in this way. She has God as a standard. She has God to give her value; she doesn?t need a man.

              In fact, in our crusade to follow men, we as women never even stopped to examine the possibility that what we have is better for us. In some cases we even gave up what was higher only to be like men.

              Fifty years ago, society told us that men were superior because they left the home to work in factories. We were mothers. And yet, we were told that it was women?s liberation to abandon the raising of another human being in order to work on a machine. We accepted that working in a factory was superior to raising the foundation of society?just because a man did it.

              Then, after working, we were expected to be superhuman?the perfect mother, the perfect wife, the perfect homemaker?and have the perfect career. And while there is nothing wrong, by definition, with a woman having a career, we soon came to realize what we had sacrificed by blindly mimicking men. We watched as our children became strangers and soon recognized the privilege we?d given up.

              And so only now?given the choice?women in the West are choosing to stay home to raise their children. According to the United States Department of Agriculture, only 31 percent of mothers with babies, and 18 percent of mothers with two or more children, are working full-time. And of those working mothers, a survey conducted by Parenting Magazine in 2000, found that 93% of them say they would rather be at home with their kids, but are compelled to work due to ?financial obligations.? These ?obligations? are imposed on women by the gender sameness of the modern West, and removed from women by the gender distinctiveness of Islam.

              It took women in the West almost a century of experimentation to realize a privilege given to Muslim women 1400 years ago.

              Given my privilege as a woman, I only degrade myself by trying to be something I?m not ? and in all honesty ? don?t want to be: a man. As women, we will never reach true liberation until we stop trying to mimic men, and value the beauty in our own God-given distinctiveness.

              If given a choice between stoic justice and compassion, I choose compassion. And if given a choice between worldly leadership and heaven at my feet?I choose heaven.
              “Sometimes the questions are complicated and the answers are simple.”

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              • Bobby1
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                Religion and feminism dont mix, Saudis and taliban keep religion in everything and look at how women live there. When Europe kept God in everything they burnt millions of women as witches. Your author is just a shill.
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              • decentGuy
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                The climate in USA in 2005 was of intense scrutiny and hostility toward Muslims that they had never experienced before. I sympathize with Muslims who were acting to protect themselves and their loved ones out of fear from the onslaught.

              • SID_NY
                SID_NY commented
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                Hmm. So I read it again. But to my original point, it still doesnt give a firm definition of feminism. I'm pretty sure a lot of feminists wouldnt agree with this. If its only related to given a lot of rights to women, I would say our Prophet (PBUH) was the first feminist that we would know. Just take yourself back in time where daughters were buried alive and imagine someone giving women this much respect as he did. But from what it looks like, feminists demand more than that. Nevertheless its a good topic to understand what they want

            • #14
              Feminism is a political movement and a set of theories. Full offense, but a serious discussion of a topic like this goes far beyond what most of you can handle. It really isn't a surprise that a movement dedicated to (basically) trying to uplift women's place in society is going to have different branches on what it focuses on and how it wants to go about it (i.e. radical feminism v. liberal feminism v. marxist feminism v. womanism ..etc. There is even "conservative feminism" which is hilarious b/c feminism is historically a left wing movement but whatever).

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              • SID_NY
                SID_NY commented
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                Last two sentences are precisely my point

              • Bobby1
                Bobby1 commented
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                So how do you reconcile women are supposed to be obedient, men are superior, a man has a right to marry 4 women. A man is only obliged to pay Mehr and even after 20 yrs of marriage he can say Talaq 3 times and the woman is not entitled to share in the property or any alimony, man can admonish and discipline women and wife and a woman needs Wallis permission to go out or work. The scholars in saudi Arabia are way more learned then we will ever be so please look at the Sharia Laws there to understand what womans rights are. Prince MBS is more influenced by western values so he is starting to give mor rights to women. Religion also allowed men to have slave women called Ma Malakat so how do you offer slave women their rights. Maybe you practice your own version of religion but many practice the more Sharia view about women so how is one going to determine that the person who is so religious will not expect obedience. I incredulously, here in Canada went to a wedding where the most popular Imam preached about obedience and reiterated that God made woman more suitable for domestic duties and men for outside work.

                Yes Taliban, Haqqanis, Boko Haram say their version is the most pure so how do we know that the rishta will follow your version and not the unadulterated version.

                Personally I don't need to cherry pick as i follow principles of Humanism for the most part which evolves with time and are developed by the smartest people after millions of hours of research and deliberations. There are courts, appeal courts, Supreme courts the laws are debated and re debated and challenged and re challenged.

                Also I am not interested in 100s of years ago, what effects my life is today. For my loved ones I would a million times over prefer that they have the protections of the western Laws. My specialist Doctor niece was very cruelly subjected to some horrific deception by a so called religious family and thankfully the laws here protected her.

                My wife also had tragic experiences before she decided that maybe lets look beyond religion for a good partner.

              • IsaidwhatIsaid
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                Bobby1 I think you replied to the wrong person. I have to say, you aren't completely off with this reply though.

            • #15
              Illuminate so here is the deal that bothers me the most is to see many cherry pick from Islam and Feminism to suite their interest. I have seen many females take from Islam that they dont have to work, do house work or contribute financially but in Islam a man can marry 4, say three talak and divorce and does not have to pay alimony and gets custody of children after age 7 and requires obedience during marriage. Now the same females use feminism to not be obedient and want alimony support payments and man arrested for abuse and child custody and many times engage in nasty fake allegations. I am for feminism but feel that you cant mix religion with modern rights movement and ride on two horses at the same time.

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              • Illuminate
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                Well cherry picking in both religion and feminism is wrong. In Islam women have many rights and the Prophet SAW advocated for these rights much earlier than some western countries. I'll give you an example - Islam was one of the first religions to give women rights of inheritance. Women in America and Europe were denied the right to own and manage property until the 18th century. Women and men are given the same rewards for prayer and fasting. I'm not sure about other people so I won't speak for them but personally I try to balance my religion while being a progressive Canadian. I still have lots to learn about both feminism and Islam but my religion is my way of life. I think it's best to look at religion based on its teachings NOT by how others live their lives. There are Muslims who cherry pick, yet there is Islam which is complete.
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