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      Under what conditions can a Muslim, who fills the basic requirement for being muslim, can't have Surah fatihah being read after dead ?

      Any significance in Islam about janaza on how many people attended?

      Like many were there to v few were there, any affect on the dead soul?

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      It is a right of a muslim that other muslims attend his funeral:
      It is narrated by Abu Huraira (ra) that "I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The rights of a Muslim on the Muslims are to follow the funeral processions, to accept invitation and to reply the sneezer." (Sahih Al-Bukhari)

      So everyone should try to attend a funeral. Regarding the number of people who attend. There is hadith reported by Aisha (ra), and similary by Anas bin Malik (ra):
      The Prophet Muhammad (saw) said, “There is no Muslim man who dies and forty men who do not associate anything with Allaah pray the funeral prayer for him, but Allaah will accept their intercession for him.” (Sahih Al-Muslim)
      Another narration quotes 100 and yet another one quotes 3 rows. So some scholars have said that the exact number is not important, rather a group of muslims should attend because their prayers for the deceased help him to be forgiven.

      About when you do not read a Janazah for a muslim, the answer in "never". Except of course in the case of a Shaheed, who dies in a battle. Since you say that the person satisfies the basic requirements for being a muslim, then he does not fit the other categories which should not have Janazah offered for them by muslims (i.e. murtid and munafiq whose nifaaq is obvious and known).

      I answered for a janazah offering because that is what I understand from fatihah. There is no hadith for reciting Surah Al-Fatihah (or any other part of Quran) on dead people.
      Both Halal & Haram r evident but between them r doubtful things, most ppl have no knowledge about them. So whoever saves himself from suspicious things saves his religion & honor, & whoever indulges in suspicious things indulges in Haram.

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      Ok thanks anyway

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      Quote Originally Posted by batameez View Post
      Under what conditions can a Muslim, who fills the basic requirement for being muslim, can't have Surah fatihah being read after dead ?

      Any significance in Islam about janaza on how many people attended?

      Like many were there to v few were there, any affect on the dead soul?
      You mean for isaal sawab? If a person does fulfill the requirements for being Muslim, then there is no restriction on reciting Surah Fatiha or any other action or dua done in their favor.
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      Peace @caption Obvious,

      Reading Surah Fatiha will not benefit deceased in any way.
      Never explain urself to any1 The person who likes u doesn't need it &The person who dislike u won't believe it

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      Quote Originally Posted by lethal kamikaze View Post
      Peace @caption Obvious,

      Reading Surah Fatiha will not benefit deceased in any way.
      Whether you believe in isaal sawab or not, this wouldn't change its permissibility.
      Tell your assassin to aim for her head...because she doesn't have a heart.

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      Fatihah can be read on Thursday or Friday for the departed too

      It's usually wahabi school of thought who find recitation of fatihah or Quran for the dead to be bidah

      Thanks anyway

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      Peace,

      Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
      Whether you believe in isaal sawab or not, this wouldn't change its permissibility.
      I do believe in 'Isaal-e-Sawab' and its permissibly as described according to Sunnah.

      Quote Originally Posted by batameez View Post
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      Fatihah can be read on Thursday or Friday for the departed too

      It's usually wahabi school of thought who find recitation of fatihah or Quran for the dead to be bidah

      Thanks anyway
      Nobody here talking about any school of thought. If you think that Fatiha can be read on Thursday or Friday for the departed too, then plz provide us authentic source.

      Usually, what happen when relatives or family friends visit members of the deceased, they do not know what dua (as per sunnah of the Prophet ) to be read to batoon batoon mein keh dete hain chalo bhai 'fatiha' par lo. That is what actually happen.

      And please keep in mind that 'Wahab' is a name of Almighty Allah. Some scholars prevent saying 'wahabi', so plz be careful.
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      Quote Originally Posted by lethal kamikaze View Post
      Peace,



      I do believe in 'Isaal-e-Sawab' and its permissibly as described according to Sunnah.

      Please share what you know of this.
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      Peace @Captain Obvious,

      The deceased will benefit of 'Isaal-e-Sawab' by following three categories:

      1- Knowledge: Such knowledge which benefit others,
      2- Charity: Given something or built something as charity, and
      3- Righteous children: Who will pray for the deceased.
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      Quote Originally Posted by lethal kamikaze View Post
      Peace,



      I do believe in 'Isaal-e-Sawab' and its permissibly as described according to Sunnah.



      Nobody here talking about any school of thought. If you think that Fatiha can be read on Thursday or Friday for the departed too, then plz provide us authentic source.

      Usually, what happen when relatives or family friends visit members of the deceased, they do not know what dua (as per sunnah of the Prophet ) to be read to batoon batoon mein keh dete hain chalo bhai 'fatiha' par lo. That is what actually happen.

      And please keep in mind that 'Wahab' is a name of Almighty Allah. Some scholars prevent saying 'wahabi', so plz be careful.
      Lethal bhai

      It is a sunni practice to recite Fatiha and other surahs for esal e sawab.
      Even Imam Shafi has been quoted as saying there is no harm in it. There is some references for Prophet SallAllaahu Alaihi wa alihi wa sallam doing it, the tafsirs certainly mention such practices as Sunnah from weak sources.
      Hence overall it is not said to be authenticated Sunnah but as mustahab (recommended and allowed practice)

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      There are whole lot of things one can do for Isaal e sawab of the departed soul.
      One can plant trees, dig Wells, give charity, recite surahs from Quran, distribute booklets of quranic surah to read by people, educate orphans, financially support the destitute, do Hajj and umra for them. If I m not mistaken one can even offer the missing prayers and observe fast for them.
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