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Mar 16th, 2005 #19Atlantis----
what's a kalma?
Mar 16th, 2005 #20Originally Posted by armughal
"Whoever enters the marketplace and recites... (the above words)... Allah writes for him a thousand, thousand good deeds and clears him of a thousand, thousand sins..."
"Whoever recites in the morning... Allah will record for that person ten good deeds..."
"Whoever recites... not intending anything other than seeking the Face of Allah, then by virtue of it Allah will admit him into the Blessed Garden."
"That the Prophet (saw) would say at the end of the salah..."
Sorry, I can't yet look into the various levels of authenticity as I'm pushed for time...
I'll try to look at some of the other kalimahs later if I can... #1 and #2 are obvious and require no comment really...
Last edited by gupguppy; Mar 16th, 2005 at 11:58 AM.
Mar 16th, 2005 #21----
Originally Posted by inuit
does anyone know the anwser to what i asked? Iv always been brought up to recite all 6 kalmay whenever i can. i recite them all the time, mainly before going to bed. I dont understand this whole "innovation" stuff.I understand, I just don't care.
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gupguppy u can find the first, second and third as well (or atleast something similar) in some ahadith....
but to call them six kalimas of Islam and gruop them like this and make it an important issue for every muslim to memorize them etc etc is what i am talking about....Both Halal & Haram r evident but between them r doubtful things, most ppl have no knowledge about them. So whoever saves himself from suspicious things saves his religion & honor, & whoever indulges in suspicious things indulges in Haram.
Mar 16th, 2005 #23
^ yes, i noticed you said earlier on that "its the grouping of these six that i do not like...."
also, #5 & #6 are proving difficult to trace from hadith in their present wording...
Mar 16th, 2005 #24Originally Posted by armughal
Again I do profusely apologise for my Ignorance.
Mar 17th, 2005 #25Originally Posted by Miss_Mohabbat
That is what I meant !
Aug 16th, 2005 #26
arent the just dua's? i know them with translation. i dont think they are foundation of aqeeda but they are just tasbeeh and duas to me.
Aug 16th, 2005 #27
[size=2]why is it only 6? thats not alot to learn is it? in my family we get told to learn as much as we can. btw who said it has to be 6? man some pakis make sum funny innovations in Islam![/size]
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The kalimahs are just organized statements that describe our faith and belief. They are not biddah. There is no act of inaccurate religious practice in any of these. in fact reciting them or knowing them reiterates your faith.
There are several actual innovations that we should be worried about in our society.Don't be hurtin' and hatin' cuz my phone is so cool!
Jan 20th, 2009 #30----
There was a trend among elite mullahs, of early years, to introduce 1 new kalma, per 200 years. Part of the reason was, while earlier muslim scientists, were busy exploring the world, mullahs had not much to do. The trend stopped, until recently, I heard a 7th kalma is introduced.
Jul 13th, 2009 #31
Did someone say that the six Kalmas are only in the sub-continent?
That is incorrect. They are everywhere.
Yes, it would be good to study the origins of how and why they are organised that way.
The first Kalma is fundamental to our Faith and appears in the Quran. It is something every Muslim from every sect knows and recites.
The second Kalma is vital to becoming a Muslim. I have witnessed a few Sahadahs myself and it is used to bring people into Islam. Plus as per Ahadith if we do anything that sets us outside Islam (several small everyday mistakes do that), we must immediately do the Shahadah. So it is good prractice.
I suggest you study the life of the prohpet (PBUH) and you'll examples and applications.
The descriptions are secific to the reigions. To help people understand the purpose and application, like Tayyab man'e Paak, Shahad man'e Gawahi, Tamjeed man'e buzurgi... and so on. So students who don't know Arabic understand what it is.
My brothers and sisters, please don't reject any part of Islam, unless you are really sure about it. If you cannot find the reason yourself, please get help from an Alim.
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